It gets messy very fast but it's the same as or higher damage than p/p. I'm confident this build could be grinded to 44k dps with a very optimized rotation, the issue with engineer is always finding it. I would change a few things on the weapon and I've given my feedback here en-forum.guildwars2.com/topic/147944-janthir-wilds-spear-beta-event-feedback-engineer/?do=findComment&comment=2142786Uncategorized 3 Man (2min55s) | Willbender PoVMagic2024-03-12 | ...Molten Boss 3 Man (2min42s) | Thief PoVMagic2024-03-12 | Lots of mistakes in that one, but we didn't get to grind as much as we wanted, will have to wait for the next iteration for a smoother run :)Dark Ai (1min05s) | Axe Deadeye PoVMagic2024-03-03 | Quick 1h grind with Stick Together & BO. Do not stand inside the hitbox or you will fail to proc M7 half of the time
log: https://dps.report/DM48-20240303-152346_ai
The build is strong and fun, but very impractical to playNightmare CM 3 Man (8min37s) | Guardian PoVMagic2024-02-26 | ...Volcanic 3 Man (4min33s) | Guardian PoVMagic2024-02-26 | ...Furnace 3 Man (5min43s) | Engi and Guardian PoVMagic2024-02-25 | ...Swomp 3 Man (5min03s) | Guardian PoVMagic2024-02-25 | ...Thauma 3 Man (2min41s) | Thief PoVMagic2024-02-25 | ...Discretize Nightmare & Shattered Boss Guide for Dragonhunter (2024)Magic2024-01-28 | I say "guide", well it's more of a showcase, but this is what an ideal round of kills should look like for a Dragonhunter in a Discretize guild run.
(I'm not very happy with the editing, sorry if the music doesn't sound right)
These are grinded kills, to showcase what ideal rotations look like on Dragonhunter for the Nightmare and Shattered Observatory fractals. This isn't to say that we do kills that fast every day. But we apply the same strategies as shown in the video.
MAMA (33s) https://dps.report/nmt7-20240120-161225_mama SIAX (21s) https://dps.report/Jp88-20240113-000647_siax ENSOLYSS (1min50s) https://dps.report/Qigu-20240113-001141_enso
The traps definitely proc'd too early on Enso P1, that was not intended. The correct spot is a bit annoying to find. Dragon's Maw proc was intended though (while it's active, it gets triggered again when using it a second timeduring the fight).
Everything else is on the boss sheets. There are some minor mistakes in the PoV (skill order) but this is more or less what you should aim for in a static run with dT. If you have any questions feel free to ask in the comments.Toxic Trail, second iteration - still not quite there yet...Magic2023-08-22 | - Blocking does remove the trail (100% of the time) - Inconsistent application of the pulse - The pulse itself does not seem to be working - Amazing editing skills displayed in this videoProfessional Grappling HookerMagic2023-07-19 | ...[GW2]|dT] MAMA CM (28s) | Dragonhunter PoVMagic2023-07-16 | kill log: https://dps.report/LCYS-20230716-184636_mama[GW2][dT] MAMA & Skorvald CM (29 & 32s) | Dragonhunter & Deadeye PoVsMagic2023-06-25 | Here's a video coupling both our latest MAMA kill and Skorvald record. Both bosses required really heavy theorycrafting and many grind sessions. The Skorvald kill uses a strat that was refined over the months based on a Deadeye strat I came up with. As for the MAMA grind, I only took part in one session, but the kill could've been much more refined with better rotations and more time, as the kill initially had Breke over me in it. I've also included the entire Precasts Round that we had to do before each Skorvald pull.
I'm pretty disappointed in the Skorvald kill overall as I think it could've been better, but Deadeye which is an absolute trash specialization was the limiting factor, with major issues including but not limited to: Initiative regeneration problems, Death's Judgement/Backstab inconsistencies, trash portal, inconsistent CC, no Deadeye's Mark reset on phase ends, and extreme unflexibility when it comes to utility skills: absolutely no room for any sort of Initiative refill or extra shadowstep. In the video it probably looks like I'm just pressing things mindlessly, but despite it being straight-forward, a single misplaced auto attack / extra use of any ability that costs Initiative literally fucks up the entire kill, as if the first round to lay out portals and traps wasn't RNG enough!
logs: SKORVALD: https://dps.report/z0kI-20230624-185605_skor (33s instead of 32s to showcase the rotation I was going for rather than the mess that was the 32s one) https://dps.report/EI0s-20230624-175809_skor (32s, actual record)
MAMA: https://gw2wingman.nevermindcreations.de/log/20230623-180849_mama_kill (29s)[GW2][dT] One Burn Ensolyss CM (46s) | Holosmith PoVMagic2023-06-19 | crabros we rise https://dps.report/bLDU-20230619-201714_enso
PoVs:
Feint (Holosmith) - youtu.be/lWeRk_Pa3Rs Hyp (Holosmith) - youtu.be/KKf2uX5xIV8 Inky (Holosmith) - tbd Elu (Specter) - youtu.be/dIvpx45_Pgw[GW2][dT] Mai Trin Fractal 42 (~1min45s) | Bladesworn PoVMagic2023-05-28 | If you phase horrik instantly, the adds wont spawn!
example log (not this PoV): https://dps.report/U4P0-20230428-211353_mai
Build: https://optimizer.discretize.eu/build/?m=fractals&v=2&data=XQAAAAKTAAAAAAAAAABuAACjtmhi0Kka2_MELOS2-TqNQSSeWO9A8xghIXnLNaAQzCLgFibLeGmIHKWZDQw1MBt4HRUIjo8GyPTCVHaoLYny07ZHnBsfev2IeE_mMU9uveVH0iEfx_QWIHRdEwghkRymrj65p2eJViT-tcfTGu1MAtw9rjovl0NWqIvFTnIuEmfsFxQf_42oAAA[GW2] Condition TRV Holosmith | Tips & Lower Intensity RotationsMagic2023-05-17 | A little something I made to help players who are trying to learn the build, and also show that it's mainly about understanding what skills you need to prioritize to deal good damage. It's not a full comprehensive guide, but I hope some will find it useful.
https://dps.report/ewL0-20230517-004221_golem 37K DPS - Lowest Intensity with Primary Skills only.
https://dps.report/CvI2-20230517-003316_golem 40K DPS - Low Intensity with Primary Skills, Autos and Toolbelt fillers.
These are not grinded.[GW2](outdated) Condition TRV Holosmith Benchmark | 43.5K DPSMagic2023-05-07 | EDIT: Please find some additional information pinned down in the comments below.
Lower Intensity rotations and small video guide for beginners: youtu.be/ADh9WYICh6U
Quick note: in a real scenario (raids, strikes), don't precast your Big Ol' Bomb if the boss' breakbar isn't available as you start the boss - keep it for later to CC it.
This is my last bench for now, I didn't grind more after this pull but the rotation is still improvable a bit. I made two mistakes towards the end, using Freeze Grenades early even though Poison Grenades were off cooldown, which delayed the rest of the rotation, and forced me into a bit of a bruh moment when I came back to grenades and realized everything was still on cooldown lol
I also fixed the previous rotation which didn't utilize Solar Focusing Lens (Holosmith Major Adept 3), because I didn't exit Photon Forge with pressing F5. This raises the damage even more.
Maximum damage is probably in the very high 43k range, 43.8k-44k+. But this is about as good as it's gonna get for now!
For daily organized runs, and speedruns, DH isn't the strongest option out there. Although it is viable, it gets completely outclassed by a third Soulbeast in place of it, which is burstier, and has much more reliable self sustain through boon application, and better CC overall. Mama and Siax are two bosses on which DH can perform equally well in speedruns, if given the right tools (mostly precasts). It's worth noting that DH suits daily clears better as it has a nice party block with Shield of Courage. It comes in handy for multiple major attacks, and on almost every boss.
I made minor mistakes here and there, but I'm happy with those PoVs for now on DH. For example, I would've cast my Symbol of Energy first on Artsariiv split 2 for a faster rotation p3. I'm also still looking for better weapon management on Arkk (usually, higher time spent on Greatsword helps: it's mostly beneficial for the Guardian to camp Greatsword on that boss because of how many phases there are, and the induced downtime). Note that I'm playing with Virtues on Skorvald and Radiance on all the rest.
The goal of this video is to serve as a tool to help future dT members who intend to run daily clears with a Dragonhunter. Discretize is getting restructured, and we're currently updating our website. The strategies displayed in this video are very aggressive and wouldn't work in a PuG environment (=public/pick-up lfg groups). The builds, guides and tips will follow.
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Funnily enough, logs such as these are not far off the kill times dT members used to be able to get with a different comp some years ago!
Willbender benchmark - since virtues can stack now, Restorative Virtues is able to tick way more if you spam your virtues. I lost it at ~40-35% and it's nonsense from there. Overall the rotation is just "guardian good practices" on which was slapped a hefty amount of cdr, everything that is important on DH is exacerbated (stowing almost everything, avoiding auto jank on Sword AND Greatsword...)
I'm not even sorry that I used 12 boons, this build is awful to play and I just wanted that stupid golem to die as quickly as possible on every attempt during the entire grind
The good news is - even though this is still an unrealistic setting, this is very much closer to the numbers you might expect to see in real scenarios: using your virtues will increase your aegis uptime, and even if it gets stripped, well, you simply lose 7% additive dmg - not 20% like before (which in the end is a 2.6% dmg loss in raids and ~2 to 1.3% in fractals depending on titles). On top of that, you should expect to have 8-10 boons in real scenarios. Overall this is now a very strong damage dealer, sadly offhand sword can never compete with Focus now that it got buffed and the fact that it ticks a lot[GW2][sM] Shattered Observatory CM (4min59s) | Soulbeast PoVMagic2022-11-20 | We're back getting more of your favourite items removed from the game mode
Soloing the island forced me to be a bit slow in p3 compared to the rest of the group. I tried playing around with "To the Limit!" for Flow generation and "On My Mark!" over Flow Stabilizer for more upfront burst, but it didn't make a huge difference. I went with the regular build instead.
We also tried double Bladesworn, but it wasn't insane. Jetrell incorporated sword/warhorn to the Soulbeast rotation, which ended up being a neat improvement. Currently, I'm EXPLOITING a bug on Bladesworn which lets Dragon Trigger go on a shorter cooldown (about 4-5s instead of 8) when using DT - Boost immediately. This should be fixed next patch (October 4th), which means at this pace I will probably not be able to do updrafts so quickly. It's kinda cool though.[GW2] Shattered Observatory CM Bosses | Bladesworn PoVMagic2022-09-23 | https://dps.report/yqW2-20220922-221021_skor 1min09 https://dps.report/v3SJ-20220922-230500_arriv 1min03 https://dps.report/V2fS-20220922-232727_arkk 1min39[GW2](outdated) Longbow Virtues Dragonhunter | 36.3K DPSMagic2022-09-13 | A bit better than the previous video, the build is also optimized now. I must have messed up my settings last time. I put the previous video as unlisted (link: youtu.be/RaB8mfkCP-Y ). My rotation is definitely not perfect but it's good enough =)
log: https://dps.report/AzZ9-20220913-144845_golem build: https://optimizer.discretize.eu/build/?m=fractals&v=2&data=XQAAAAKcAAAAAAAAAABuAACjvB9Olilvb7AvewTW87lDe8MJKIyapC9InkVp8tvi0BgyHpEeRCZQMMyECnQNICTin1Eqqr48pgYIqTlSMTtV8LI2Edk5hu9b6CWHOmiPVbiC75xNW97pTkoN4-ltcwQVtEjhLbgqsIYmFWJ9PhJkVckSV7-v0y7m37y-0ms5S2My5nhxLuetWLRngqYb_yIMgAA exact settings: https://optimizer.discretize.eu/?s=-926iMuvv1 music: youtu.be/66apwnQslFA[GW2][dT] Skorvald CM (18s) | Specter PoVMagic2022-05-31 | WHERE HAVE THE MECHANICS GONE?????????????
strategy: youtu.be/R9YUDcJtZrA[GW2] Skorvald CM (41s) | Willbender PoVMagic2022-05-27 | skorvald grind that serves as some kind of "proof of concept" for future unrestricted records, I lost Aegis on last phase and my solo of island 2 was really awkward, when in reality it can be made very simple with the third virtue. This was an extensive grind but there's still a long way to go!
log: https://dps.report/iMrv-20220527-230257_skor
As a side note, the settings for this kill are completely unrealistic, even for static standards. On top of using portals, I'm running 342 Agony Resistance to crit cap with full berserkers, with Agony Infusions ranging from +15 to +18 (thx to Zyp/Roul/Roach for sharing their stuff) in seventeen slots and 3 Mighty +9 infusions because I could afford to slot them in. We also started using Strength Boosters because of how unreliable the adds were, especially for the Warrior who had to solo his own with a rifle which is especially difficult. We also heavily used food swapping to stack some juicy power buffs, all of this to compensate the massive nerfs we got for the past twelve months of course
full precast included at the end!
Inky's PoV: youtu.be/95dvwKFnUKA (slb)GW2: Zhaitans Bite & Zhaitans Fang | Zhaitan Legendary Greatsword & Sword - Full Guardian ShowcaseMagic2022-05-25 | Showcase of the new legendary sword and greatsword skins on a human male guardian, including footfalls, animations, projectiles, and special interactions with the guardian's specializations
0:00 Zhaitan's Bite Part #1 (Greatsword) 1:23 Zhaitan's Bite Part #2 2:02 Zhaitan's Fang (Sword) 3:09 Zealot's Defense #1 (Projectiles) 3:38 Ennemy Death Animation 3:52 Ennemy Death 4:09 Zealot's Defense #2 (Projectiles) 4:13 Trail, Greatsword in Combat 4:30 Willbender Virtues 4:53 Spear of Justice (Dragonhunter) 4:59 Tome of Justice Interactions[GW2][pS][iV] MAMA CM (36s) | Dragonhunter PoVMagic2022-05-10 | Quick grind from today with my friends the pill swallowers pS (I THINK)
log : https://dps.report/vx28-20220510-203053_mama build is standard DH build from discretize.eu, I had a frenzy sigil instead of force on my focus[GW2][iV] Siax CM (24s) | Willbender PoVMagic2022-05-07 | Sorry for the lengthy downtime at the start I didn't cut properly, but at least you can listen to some Angele
Members of [iV] : Pineapple (dgh), BlackHawk (slb), Delay (slb), Tantor (dgh), Roul (forever cata)[GW2][dT] Cliffside 94 Record (2min33s) | Daredevil PoVMagic2022-05-06 | Cliffside is safu
log: https://dps.report/gaGP-20220506-2132...
Other PoV's Hyp (scrapper): youtu.be/kxrUon3bXtc Marten (Daredevil): youtu.be/tajqViDzL6I Jetrell (Berserker): youtu.be/RlFHHkr8NOU Inky (Ren): youtu.be/850emcnLMFc[GW2][iV] Ensolyss CM | Power Alac Willbender & Soulbeast TestingMagic2022-04-24 | Did some testing on Ensolyss with Willbender for alacrity. It's looking quite promising but it's still too weak compared to Renegade from our night of testing. It needs a little boost, especially with might coverage and also CC. With the right buffs this can actually become meta (On the bright side, Ensolyss is looking like one of the weakest encounters for alac Willbender. We think it can perform pretty well on Artsariiv, Arkk, Siax and even Skorvald or MAMA. The first PoV ended up being a failure, we didn't kill Ensolyss with this comp and switched to the second one some time later during the evening.
As a final note, it's honestly deeply disturbing how hard it has become to do a proper Ensolyss kill... 2min and 2 seconds for a somewhat grinded kill, with a rigid comp that is hanging by a thread. In just two months, banners, spirit and maybe One Wolf Pack will all be gone. That means any hope of power classes being viable on this boss will basically vanish, if we don't get compensation. While condi is basically still chilling on Ensolyss, getting the same kill times +10-15 seconds in daily clears, with little to no effort and investment (and, againnn, we waited to get perfect instabs for this boss)
builds: Alac Willbender : http://gw2skills.net/editor/?PWwAEx3lVw4YIsJWLWcXlRLA-zRRYBRNH2cQnFRtVgtHkwYP8V0P-e + Anguished Tear of Alba, Superior Sigils of Serpent Slaying on both sets and Powerful Potion of Slaying Scarlet's Armies and Jade Core level 10 (all missing in the build linked) Power Soulbeast : pretty much this but there are some tweaks with the traits https://discretize.eu/builds/ranger/power-soulbeast/
Members of [iV] in this kill: Pineapple (slb), Tantor (bsk), BlackHawk (slb/ren), Roul (cata), Delay (emotional support for 5min)[GW2][dT] Snowblind 93 Record (2min52s) | Compote Enjoyer PoVMagic2022-04-16 | u like compote? I sure do
Hyp - youtu.be/evRTZaQvAoY Marty - youtu.be/4gf7hRl36hk Inky - youtu.be/ZPOBxCaZ-Hk Roach - youtu.be/So9n9a7zAzkThey warned me not to play POWER with STRANGERS... I did NOT listen to them....Magic2022-04-13 | I SEE MECHANICS Dude wtf like Enso can legit vomit on you??? And wtf are those patterns at the end? Crazy world we live in. This change to Exposed really opened my eyes, what a wonderful pug experience all around
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!NUMBER ONE DH ALL ERAS BTW JUST SAYING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!LOGS (n,ot ashamed)!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
https://dps.report/HtZb-20220413-210528_mama
https://dps.report/llh5-20220413-211019_siax
https://dps.report/GXWg-20220413-211543_enso[GW2](outdated) Condition Mechanist (Jade Dynamo) | 43.3K (unrealistic setting)Magic2022-03-29 | Just a quick unrealistic grind with condi Mechanist. It also pulls some nice numbers in fractals even with the 4-kit variant, but I'd probably still go J-Drive and one signet
(new patch so logs are broken)[GW2][iV] Dark Ai (1min20s) | Virtuoso PoVMagic2022-03-20 | Back again with yet anOTHER Dark Ai kill, what can I say, this time trying out the new kid on the block condi Virtuoso which does a fair bit of damage. It's a viable DPS option, but it doesn't bring much to the party (minimal CC). It's probably inferior to condi Willbender.
Members of [iV] : Tantor (fb), Pineapple (fb), Delay (spc), BlackHawk (ren), Roul (mourning)[GW2] Thaumanova Reactor 82 (1min53s) | Thief PoVMagic2022-01-31 | I haven't played in over a month cause real life is h4rd but I thought I'd upload this, I never did and it's still a nice PoV from early October 2021, during tournament practice. For a cleaner thief PoV, you can find one on Trace's channel from Snow Crows who uploaded a nice one some time ago, they did a thauma record.
Not having autoattack on on my pistol set really fucked me on the last boss, but the ooze is so perfect[GW2][dT] Dark Ai (1min11s) | Holosmith PoVMagic2021-12-18 | Two PoVs in one video, condi Holo rotation attempts on Dark Ai, respectively with and without Thermal Vision (the selfish DPS trait). As you can see, it's hard to tell which one's better. Disclaimer : those PoVs were recorded before the precast & Omnipot nerfs (Sept 18th), so everyone's damage is a lot higher and the kill is much faster than the ones we do now. Still it's a nice showcase of condi holo in fractals, and I think this build is pretty underrated and doesn't get enough credit for what it brings to the group. Somebody asked me some questions about condi Holo so I figured I'd finally upload those ^^
Sorry about quality once again, I recorded this on my dying laptop while on holiday
Music : Audien feat. Ruby Prophet - Circles youtu.be/3I2TE9K68AY[GW2][iV] Artsariiv Bounty Kill (45s) | Dragonhunter PoVMagic2021-12-12 | Arcane hype (it's made by French people btw did you know did you know????)
PoVs: Tantor | Dragonhunter : no video BlackHawk | Soulbeast : youtu.be/xXvzCGylhh0 Delay | Soulbeast : youtu.be/PwD4d009kYc Magic | Dragonhunter : this PoV Pineapple | Renegade : youtu.be/jYX6oxwr2Ww[GW2][iV] Cliffside Bounty (3min00s) | Daredevil PoVMagic2021-12-12 | Cliffside, my favorite fractal of all times (runner dog PoV or not). So glad we got a 3:00 run, it was a hell lot of fun despite the RNG. Endurance management was also very hard on the last boss ^^
Hey guys, here's some Willbender action in Sunqua Peak for those interested ; first PoV is with Sanctuary and second PoV is with Signet of Wrath. As you can see, the damage is pretty good, about what I expected to be fair. Ideally, it would need to be higher : as you can see, while I do provide a LOT of CC (1st PoV), my damage is not that much higher than everyone else's, even though I'm the only one who doesn't bring any utility other than CC to the rest of my party, which makes it suboptimal compared to, say, a daredevil : but it's only slightly worse. Plus, this was the first time that I actually played it in a real scenario, so it looks promising!
I should mention that arcDPS is allegedly bugged right now and still takes into account the 15% extra raw condition damage that the Omnipotion used to give, which was removed about a month ago. That means everyone's damage is in fact lower
Members of [iV] : Tantor (slb), PineappleMan (fb), Delay (slb), BlackHawk (ren)[GW2][iV] Dark Ai (1min22s) (NPNG) | Daredevil PoVMagic2021-11-11 | Good showcase of condi Daredevil on Dark Ai. It looks much stronger than condi Deadeye on this boss now
log : https://dps.report/iMAf-20211111-175744_ai
Members of [iV] : Pineapple (fbd), Delay (slb), BlackHawk (ren), Tantor (slb)
Music : Audio Hertz - Groove Tube[GW2][iV] 99CM Bosses | Dragonhunter PoVMagic2021-11-10 | 3DH comp in Shattered. The Skorvald kill was an earlier grind, and the rest is from our daily run yesterday (multiple wipes on Artsariiv)