how? we originally set out to do ~23s arts after expac with spear/gs but instantly realised during test that u can multihit helio rushes as long as u cast max distance few ms cast apart (~100ms in this case) from other dhs
with multihit helio 20s should be achievable, while 23 should b achievable without and 26 with no artillery as well on this patch
before expac ren slb 3dh outperformed all other comp variants we did as counterfactuals with a high 25 as theoretical best
as side note, if you go faster than 1.4x p1 you get bubble p2 (lol) and if you go faster than 3.0 p2 u dont get split bit unfort cuz originally i wanted to do 2.6 p2 mby by next expac np
how? we originally set out to do ~23s arts after expac with spear/gs but instantly realised during test that u can multihit helio rushes as long as u cast max distance few ms cast apart (~100ms in this case) from other dhs
with multihit helio 20s should be achievable, while 23 should b achievable without and 26 with no artillery as well on this patch
before expac ren slb 3dh outperformed all other comp variants we did as counterfactuals with a high 25 as theoretical best
as side note, if you go faster than 1.4x p1 you get bubble p2 (lol) and if you go faster than 3.0 p2 u dont get split bit unfort cuz originally i wanted to do 2.6 p2 mby by next expac npalac specter light ai rota example (waterskip)Giannis2025-09-02 | log: https://dps.report/pW2L-20250830-204550_ai
this pov is from short grind where u wanna break side asap (as it gates the fight) but still serves as a rly good example rota for dailies as we play our daily comp and i do pretty much almost 1:1 wat i do here on dailies.
rotation explanation:
p1: on dailies delay ur venoms to get optimal dmg relative to breakbar timer. tell your team to break as slow as possible. At 21s+ p1 u can trigger ur trap when she goes bk mid, dont do it on faster pace or u will hv cd issues for p2.
split: after u finish ur shroud loop to apply alac make sure to apply rot venom to ur friends! cast sc2 twice for: 1. lead attacks 2. might 3. proc applied force on scrappers
p2: my steal here is slightly slow coz i made mistake this pull u wanna steal before the sc3. don't skip sh5 for scrap stab, ideally sh3 before sh5 for ur dmg.
split: cast rot venom during downtime on ur allies, cast heal venom at very end so ur friends dont randomly use it on invuln!
p3: u can skip or stagger sh5 here.
this rota should work for p much any pace when u skip. u need to adjust venoms based on pace. understand venoms need to first be consumed and then take 6-7s to do their dmg! i will try to post a non skip pov too with well over trap laterren nightmare example (25 mama, 15 siax, 1:38 enso)Giannis2025-08-22 | shattered next when we get a good instab day (never) logs: https://dps.report/yoAv-20250821-225008_mama https://dps.report/7M5Y-20250821-225311_siax https://dps.report/JOO9-20250821-225537_enso
mama had lucky bubble so gained some ms and enso bit slow should b able to one pull 137 pretty consistently with more practise
tips and tricks for ren talents: precast: just focus on multicast f4 u dont need to blast as u hv 3 trillion might from scrap anyw pressing 3 buttons. u dont need to cat u can also use instrument and swap trait from RR to LL but ideally u wanna cat for brutality on ur pre temp. u can do claw as well as precast thief etc to optimize pre more
mama: this rotation is same as the one on my 30s video but with faster weapswaps. i hv frenzy gs here so i can get f3 p4 at 27s or so pace (which is pretty average for daily) but obv this mama was bit faster so u cant get f3 p4 at that pace. i suggest u play frenzy and aim to f3 p4 as i get it 80% of time in dailies.
siax: place ur port how i place on pre - this will give u the best % odds to not get hit by halluc and lose mods. at 17s and longer fight u can aim to get sw45 again on p2. be careful to not drop thief, i use sw2 here to kill split which refreshes my thief, but i adapt based on pace so i sometimes shift that sw2 on p2 start etc.
enso: on p1 do dark into gs5 into ice instead of what i do ( i was just testing doing ice first to check vuln here but its not better). cast sw3 before sw45 to hit them under ST. u can copy my rota 1:1 pretty much this enso is bit bad for me numbers-wise i hv gotten 26k + at this pace but whatever note if ur enso is 1.45 or whatever this rota wouldnt be good, u can shift skills accordingly but i cant talk abt everything in this video description can only showcase wat i do on my daily paceren skorvald reverse chain exampleGiannis2025-07-08 | recorded sm months ago so i would use diff setup now (traits/relics) but rota still holds!
log:https://dps.report/Wyqo-20250322-184202_skor (couldnt find exact one this is similar one), https://dps.report/WCgg-20250316-160634_skor (also a non outfl one probly useful)
sm things to note: 1. i probly had balrior cd here from prev pull on pre 2. apparently dumplings dont proc here but we didnt know months ago 3. this kill way slower than normal and s2 ports r subpar too we did 45-47 on reversechain ideally
sm tips and tricks for gw2 talents:
PRECAST: do pre balrior/claw and play brawler on ur infight temp
P2: do 50 energy swap at this pace to efficiently drain energy s2 and not miss any iodd hit, u only wanna 75 swap at faster pace and f4 in shiro after swap. make sure to save ur sw2 for s2i2 unless ur grp is slower than this (i picked slowest pov on purpose so its more representative)
S2/P3: do last f4 during s2 for scrapper cds if kill is slow enough to support that (probly 53s or higher). skip P3 sw2 unless again its way slower pace than this
perchance i post more edu stuff laterren mama example (30+ pace)Giannis2025-07-08 | recorded sm months ago so i would use diff setup now (traits/relics) but rota still holds! couldnt find exact log but here is p much same :https://dps.report/47ef-20250308-201005_mama
sm tips and tricks for gw2 talents:
its generally important to know that u wont get sw2 isolation on mama and invis hitbox can eat ur sw4 hits so you should distribute those skills between knights/mama with that in mind
i forgot to include it in the video but make sure u dont executioner axe too fast and miss slb owp on mistlock
PRECAST: Do soulcleave AWAY from invis hitbox at precast (ss into heal skill can put u or others in combat) P1: If phase is longer do gs3 AFTER f3 and BEFORE sw5, never ever do gs3 b4 f3 i see ppl do this its rly bad, you want to save sw2 for k1 so u get isolation and also hit 2nd sw2 under exposed p2 K2: On slower pace sw2 this P3: Make sure you position your camera how i do to avoid invis hitbox and get 6 sw4 hits. The late vuln DOESNT MATTER as you hit massive diminishing returns k3p4 bcoz of bubble in daily pace Make sure you swap to gs asap for p4 wepswap cd. DONT try to gs5 P3 its not good K3: depending on ur grps cc distribution u might hv to dark this (lol), if u dont want mama to jump u need to position accordingly here (inbetween mama and k3)bns neo (poh patch) - hybrid bm parse rota example ~60s ~32.7kGiannis2025-04-13 | rota guideline: 1. you want to do rmb-lmb consecutively and rmb only consecutively (for dt stacking mod) 2. do not delay ur sun stroke unless there is unavoidable cc or boss jumps
your damage distribution and burst timers should look like this: imgur.com/a/6Jer9Rd
gear guideline (what to buy and when): blue books are roughly 5k (3.8+0.3+0.3+0.6) (note blue dt goes as low as 3.3 on eu) virt badges are roughly 8k if u wanna buy them off market, which is very stupid because it is profitable to open chests and i made profit while getting them purple electric saber and bladecall go as low as 6-7k each but i suggest NOT buying those as they are not significant dps increases (purple electric saber was roughly 0.8k~ increase), i just have them coz i sniped low + lvl50 box
optimizing crit values: for hybrid bm at 5k crit values (assuming u hv onrush), 2.6k crit rate and 2.4k crit dmg is optimal, 3k rate and 2k dmg for reference is roughly 2.4% worse, this is NOT the case for other builds that depend on crits for certain procs
optimizing gems: subu gems should be optimal but i didnt roll any :)
why no fissure? fissure book is not worth the investment as you need to drop 2 dt greens (to replace kd) which means losing 3.8% mod on ur dt (and also u need to pay for purple fissure ideally which hovers about 4-5k)
why vortex wave? green vortex wave is worthwhile to get to fix ur rotation when u make mistakes or when u need to block frontals. u can arguably drop this when u get purple sunstroke as its rly hard to be punished with 24s cd sunstroke
why dont u have more utility books? u shouldnt need books such as iframes on 5pt strike, shoulder charge, bolt strike, etc; they are all just losing u mods on ur dt and u should not need them for sustain in poh, chef, or world bosses. only get extra kd books if u need them to duo farm poh/chef etc tho still arguably not worth getting
common mistakes i see in my server from hybrid bm players: 1. not stacking enough dts (u should have 10 + on this patch based on ur investment) 2. stacking sunstroke or electric saber (dont do that its rly bad), we can only maybe stack electric saber when we start hitting diminishing returns on dt (15 + stacks) 3. playing dragontongue badge: sunstroke badge is about 3x as good as dragontongue badge at my gearMAMA 0:20 • SoulbeastGiannis2024-12-18 | my f3 hits but even if it didnt it wouldnt matter coz p3 start is gated by h2 cd
im doing a slightly diff rota from other hammer slbs as im doing an extra AA to pad k2 p3 k3 which is why my port timings feel a bit awkward, in hindsight tho i should hv probly precasted 3rd hammer auto for k3 while porting but our p3 was always left at 26% so hindsight 20/20 uknow
log: https://dps.report/Drra-20241217-230245_mama
explanation: 5 slb has been optimal on this boss for like years now coz sicem uptime and owp we compared all slb variants were 3ham2spr slightly pulls ahead 5 hammer slb with chak soto pet before spear launched would hv been optimal for example and mby 500ms slower on this patch mount balrior relic does fuck all bcz 1 guy missed p1 spirit lol but ideally u gain like 200ms from it coz a2 cd gate this kill can be significantly faster (1s+) if u use some sort of precast macro that allows u to precast owp with lotp but we didnt wanna do that
explanation: how do u hv ss and quick? unseen invasion relic on ren, fmw on dhs
why this comp? we computed values for all comp variants of scrap ren slb dh, where this comp outperformed others (not by alot). 'daily' 3 slb scrap ren comp is actually not that far behind esp after dh nerfs, the problem being that scrapper breaks very early numerically in the p2-s2-p3 sequence (20s cds) while other classes dont (typically 15s cds, e.g; ham4 slb or f3 on ren) if you want to extract information from our strat and implement it in ur daily comp runs id suggest doing full p2 burst on scrapper and precast arti during s2, while ren does inverse rota in order to solo island on swords
some other useful info: 1. we originally planned to do 2.x p1 but for whatever reason we couldnt get past i2 in like 2hrs of pulls, which implies that the anoms evade either depends on p1 pace (or p1 i1 together) or simply smth that correlates to it since everything in this game's backend is conditional and doesnt actually generate random numbers (meaning the anom evade doesnt just flip a coin). either way we artificially gated our p1 to 3.0 or higher to not get cancer
2. we originally planned to pretrap for p2 (frost, procession). the intuition here is that skorvald moves his hitbox at around 3.7 (hence proccing traps), so if u can phase beforehand u should be able to pretrap during the gated part of the fight (p1 end to i1 is gated because if u go too fast i1 updraft wont spawn). unfortunately for some stroke inducing reason traps kept proccing unless u wait for 400ms extra after p1 ends so it was not worthwhile enough to do in the endEnsolyss 1:15 • DragonhunterGiannis2024-10-10 | this fire is not out of control anymore
why do you break p2? boss will skip s2 otherwise, and we like to kill this encounter with both splits
how do you have might? radiance/virtues, f1, sp3 precast on split
this kill was released early bcz patch, we were planning to go again and move artis to p3 and refine p3 execution but whatever serves as a good enough showcase of what was possible with helios
frac records are still almost all beatable even without arti or helio
many thx to derm for running a rad virt sim for us !:DSiax 0:13 • DragonhunterGiannis2024-02-07 | may god bless marchen for helping earlier pulls as we had huge scheduling problems https://dps.report/zuNm-20240207-183206_siax i got aids p1 but doesnt rly matter as p2 is softgatedArtsariiv 0:29 • DragonhunterGiannis2023-09-21 | https://dps.report/OCdf-20230920-180629_arrivSkorvald 0:46 • SoulbeastGiannis2023-08-30 | https://dps.report/1nnm-20230826-005121_skor pls subscribe i need to get to 62 subs to beat mad marchenwhen its triple npng and you skip pugging fractalsGiannis2023-08-10 | could be about 50 years faster if boss idk barrages p3? doesnt perma leech?Dark Ai 0:52 • Hybrid SoulbeastGiannis2023-02-05 | https://dps.report/vNvf-20230204-235108_ai
same rota but without dogshit wep str rng: https://dps.report/Ur96-20230105-011750_mama lb: https://dps.report/o2fl-20230105-013452_mama basically same except worse vuln p3 it looks a bit better than it should on this log cuz we had a godrun but i was testing lb np