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What is the civil magistrate responsible for, and how should it enforce the natural law? Michael Horton is joined by David VanDrunen and Adriel Sanchez to address various criticisms leveled at them by Christian Nationalists and to explain why they remain unconvinced that the government has any business making judgments about true doctrine and religion.
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0:00 Distinguishing the Two Kingdoms
9:04 Engaging the world as dual citizens
12:23 Must nations be Christianized for Christians to experience victory in this life?
19:42 How we apply the Two Kingdoms differently from the magisterial Reformers
30:09 Government is not qualified to judge orthodoxy
38:06 How should the natural law be enforced?
44:17 The gospel is not a means for political ends
49:05 Does The Great Commission imply baptizing nations?
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What is the civil magistrate responsible for, and how should it enforce the natural law? Michael Horton is joined by David VanDrunen and Adriel Sanchez to address various criticisms leveled at them by Christian Nationalists and to explain why they remain unconvinced that the government has any business making judgments about true doctrine and religion.
GET YOUR FREE SOLA NEWSPAPER - solamedia.org/newspaper/?sc=NN00NPVY
A quarterly print publication featuring articles on theology, the historic creeds and confessions, and reflections for the Christian life, delivered straight to your mailbox. For free.
PARTNER WITH US - solamedia.org/partner/?sc=AS2502VY
When you become a partner today, you'll receive two remarkable books as our thanks:
Rediscovering the Holy Spirit by Dr. Michael Horton and Praying with Jesus by Pastor Adriel Sanchez. We believe these books can guide you into a clearer understanding of the Spirit’s work and a richer prayer life.
0:00 Distinguishing the Two Kingdoms
9:04 Engaging the world as dual citizens
12:23 Must nations be Christianized for Christians to experience victory in this life?
19:42 How we apply the Two Kingdoms differently from the magisterial Reformers
30:09 Government is not qualified to judge orthodoxy
38:06 How should the natural law be enforced?
44:17 The gospel is not a means for political ends
49:05 Does The Great Commission imply baptizing nations?
LISTEN TO THE SHOW
Apple: podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/know-what-you-believe-with-michael-horton/id1776875542
Spotify: open.spotify.com/show/3iVTLF8opWifHQ8KtvXdr5?si=2f3cb2f11ef34b33
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Michael Horton engages today's leading voices in culture, theology, and apologetics.
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Know What You Believe is a production of Sola Media. For over thirty-five years, Sola has walked alongside Christians in their faith, pointing away from novelty and ourselves, and toward Christ and his gospel as proclaimed in the Scriptures, articulated in the ancient Christian Creeds, and summarized in the confessions of the Protestant Reformation.
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