Why The Next Phase of Crypto Is Bigger Than You Think w/ Blue Macellari | Raoul Pal The Journey Man @RaoulPalTJM
Why The Next Phase of Crypto Is Bigger Than You Think w/ Blue Macellari | Raoul Pal The Journey Man  @RaoulPalTJM
Uploaded August 2026 | Updated September 2026, 2 weeks ago
Raoul Pal welcomes Blue Macellari, head of digital assets at T. Rowe Price, to explore why crypto has struggled despite improving fundamentals, and how AI, stablecoins, tokenization, and institutional adoption could reshape the financial system. They also discuss the risks around AI, crypto infrastructure, and what needs to change for on-chain finance to reach mainstream adoption. Recorded August 10, 2026.

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Timestamps:
00:00 - Why Institutional Crypto Adoption Is Accelerating
02:20 - Blue Macellari’s Journey From Wall Street to Crypto
05:09 - Building a Crypto Fund Through Market Neutral Trading
07:07 - Building T. Rowe Price’s Digital Assets Business
11:35 - What Traditional Finance Learned From the Crypto Crisis
14:35 - Why Crypto Markets Have Struggled Despite Better Fundamentals
18:10 - AI vs Crypto: Where Is the Capital Going?
21:05 - Tokenization, Stablecoins, and the Future of On-Chain Finance
23:36 - Crypto’s Biggest Barrier to Mainstream Adoption
27:26 - Why Blockchain Identity Matters in the Age of AI
30:16 - The Risks of AI, AGI, and the Intelligence Explosion
39:51 - Where Blue Sees Opportunity in Crypto Now
43:15 - Hyperliquid, Perps, and TradFi’s Growing Interest in Crypto
46:40 - How Tokenization Could Transform Asset Management
49:32 - The Hidden Risks of Tokenizing Illiquid Assets
54:07 - Why Institutions Are Finally Embracing Tokenization
56:05 - Stablecoins and the Future of Global Payments
01:01:22 - Will Liquidity Finally Return to Crypto?

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