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Two weeks after launch, 85% of Robinhood Chain's trading is memecoins and just 1% is RWAs. Johann Kerbrat says that doesnโt change the strategy.
๐ฅ EPISODE LINK ๐ฅ
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Robinhood CEO Vlad Tenev told CNBC on July 2 that real-world assets, not memecoins, were the future of crypto on Robinhood Chain. Two weeks after launch, the numbers disagree: roughly 85% of daily trading on the chain is memecoins, while tokenized RWAs sit at about 1%.
Johann Kerbrat, Vice President and General Manager of Robinhood Crypto, joins Laura Shin to argue the split is not a problem. He makes the case that building the chain permissionless was deliberate, and that memecoin trading through CashCat and PumpFun brings the liquidity RWAs will eventually need.
Kerbrat also defends building the chain's lending and margin system on USDG over USDC or Tether, walks through the separate, unshared liquidity instance behind Robinhood's new perps product with Lighter, and addresses Robinhood's 63% quarterly drop in crypto transaction revenue. His answer: Robinhood Chain was never meant to smooth out that swing, and the real test is whether tokenization can outrun regulation.
Host:
๐ Laura Shin - Founder, CEO and Host of Unchained - https://x.com/laurashin
Guest:
๐ Johann Kerbrat - Vice President and General Manager of Robinhood Crypto - https://x.com/johannkerbrat
Timestamps:
๐ธ 01:06 Why memecoins are 85% of Robinhood Chain's DEX volume, not RWAs
๐ 05:35 Why PumpFun listing Robinhood Chain tokens was the result of their strategy
๐ 09:33 Where Robinhood's responsibility ends and the permissionless chain begins
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โก 16:17 Why Robinhood built a separate Lighter instance for its perps
๐ต 20:24 Why USDG, not USDC or Tether, backs Robinhood Chain's lending and margin
๐ 23:23 Does the chain mitigate the 63% swing crypto can have on Robinhood's earnings?
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Two weeks after launch, 85% of Robinhood Chain's trading is memecoins and just 1% is RWAs. Johann Kerbrat says that doesnโt change the strategy.
๐ฅ EPISODE LINK ๐ฅ
unchainedcrypto.com/podcast/why-robinhood-chain-saw-memecoins-take-off-before-real-world-assets
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Robinhood CEO Vlad Tenev told CNBC on July 2 that real-world assets, not memecoins, were the future of crypto on Robinhood Chain. Two weeks after launch, the numbers disagree: roughly 85% of daily trading on the chain is memecoins, while tokenized RWAs sit at about 1%.
Johann Kerbrat, Vice President and General Manager of Robinhood Crypto, joins Laura Shin to argue the split is not a problem. He makes the case that building the chain permissionless was deliberate, and that memecoin trading through CashCat and PumpFun brings the liquidity RWAs will eventually need.
Kerbrat also defends building the chain's lending and margin system on USDG over USDC or Tether, walks through the separate, unshared liquidity instance behind Robinhood's new perps product with Lighter, and addresses Robinhood's 63% quarterly drop in crypto transaction revenue. His answer: Robinhood Chain was never meant to smooth out that swing, and the real test is whether tokenization can outrun regulation.
Host:
๐ Laura Shin - Founder, CEO and Host of Unchained - https://x.com/laurashin
Guest:
๐ Johann Kerbrat - Vice President and General Manager of Robinhood Crypto - https://x.com/johannkerbrat
Timestamps:
๐ธ 01:06 Why memecoins are 85% of Robinhood Chain's DEX volume, not RWAs
๐ 05:35 Why PumpFun listing Robinhood Chain tokens was the result of their strategy
๐ 09:33 Where Robinhood's responsibility ends and the permissionless chain begins
๐ฃ 11:12 Cape: Use code UNCHAINED for 33% off your first six months at cape.co/unchained
โก 16:17 Why Robinhood built a separate Lighter instance for its perps
๐ต 20:24 Why USDG, not USDC or Tether, backs Robinhood Chain's lending and margin
๐ 23:23 Does the chain mitigate the 63% swing crypto can have on Robinhood's earnings?
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![Should DeFi Platforms Block Insane Trades? - Uneasy Money
A mispriced perp on trade[xyz] swings 19% on a bad oracle print, and the platform reimburses users just this once, never again, they say.
EtherFis Mike Silagadze argues that is not good enough: platforms have an ethical, brokerage-style duty to block trades this wildly insane before they happen. Kain Warwick pushes back and digs into where that responsibility actually starts, plus Sonya Kims real-world fix for oracle deviations from her time at Steakhouse.
Hosts:
โญ๏ธ Kain Warwick - Host of Uneasy Money and Founder of Infinex and Synthetix - https://x.com/kaiynne
โญ๏ธ Taylor Monahan - Co-host of Uneasy Money and Security Expert - https://x.com/tayvano_
Guests:
โญ๏ธ Sonya Kim - Co-Founder of 3F Labs - https://x.com/sonyasunkim
โญ๏ธ Mike Silagadze - Founder and CEO of EtherFi - https://x.com/MikeSilagadze
This clip is from a longer conversation on oracle mispricing and DeFi platform responsibility. Full episode here: https://youtu.be/cD G0Jvf_E
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Chapters:
๐ 0:00 SK Hynix perp on trade[xyz] craters from $1,128 to $917 on a bad oracle print
๐ 1:07 EtherFis Mike Silagadze joins to weigh in on the mess
๐ 1:25 Trade[xyz] reimburses users this one time only, never again
โ๏ธ 2:56 Why RWA perps break oracles in ways core crypto assets dont
๐ฆ 6:15 Mikes Uniswap and Aave example: selling tokens for pennies on the dollar
โ๏ธ 6:50 Mike argues platforms have a brokerage-style duty to block insane trades
๐ค 8:31 Kain: there is no such thing as the price of an asset
๐ ๏ธ 11:22 Sonyas Meta Oracle fix from her time at Steakhouse, implemented on Morpho
๐งฉ 12:29 Kain on why every oracle design decision creates new downstream risk
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