Uploaded July 2023 | Updated September 2026, 4 hours ago
In episode 2, Noah Smith and Erik Torenberg track the fracturing of the Libertarian movement, the culture wars, and which ideas deserve not to die. Econ 102 is a part of the Turpentine podcast network. To learn more: turpentine.co
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TIMESTAMPS:
(00:00) Episode preview
(12:54) Why did Libertarians lose?
(15:00) Free trade failure in the 2000s
(19:00) Libertarians jumping on the Trump train
(19:45) Evolution to state-capacity libertarian
(22:00) Culture wars vs. getting the economics right
(27:30) Effect of money on politics
(29:00) Urban fragmentation: San Francisco and New York
(30:30) Hot take: Gavin Newsom underrated
(37:00) How the right soured on the free markets and became became statist
(39:00) Can a 'reset' work?
(40:20) Which ideas deserve not to die?
SPONSOR THIS PODCAST:
We're looking for sponsors to partner with on this show. If you or your business might be interested, send us a note at erik@turpentine.co. Find out more here: turpentine.co/sponsors
LINKS REFERENCED:Where Does Libertarianism Go From Here? https://www.noahpinion.blog/p/where-does-libertarianism-go-fromTyler Cowen, State-Capacity Libertarianism marginalrevolution.com/marginalrevolution/2020/01/what-libertarianism-has-become-and-will-become-state-capacity-libertarianism.html
TWITTER:
@noahpinion (Noah)
@eriktorenberg (Erik)
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In episode 2, Noah Smith and Erik Torenberg track the fracturing of the Libertarian movement, the culture wars, and which ideas deserve not to die. Econ 102 is a part of the Turpentine podcast network. To learn more: turpentine.co
RECOMMENDED PODCAST:
@david_weisburd from Turpentine
Looking at Venture Capital through the lens of limited partners.
TIMESTAMPS:
(00:00) Episode preview
(12:54) Why did Libertarians lose?
(15:00) Free trade failure in the 2000s
(19:00) Libertarians jumping on the Trump train
(19:45) Evolution to state-capacity libertarian
(22:00) Culture wars vs. getting the economics right
(27:30) Effect of money on politics
(29:00) Urban fragmentation: San Francisco and New York
(30:30) Hot take: Gavin Newsom underrated
(37:00) How the right soured on the free markets and became became statist
(39:00) Can a 'reset' work?
(40:20) Which ideas deserve not to die?
SPONSOR THIS PODCAST:
We're looking for sponsors to partner with on this show. If you or your business might be interested, send us a note at erik@turpentine.co. Find out more here: turpentine.co/sponsors
LINKS REFERENCED:Where Does Libertarianism Go From Here? https://www.noahpinion.blog/p/where-does-libertarianism-go-fromTyler Cowen, State-Capacity Libertarianism marginalrevolution.com/marginalrevolution/2020/01/what-libertarianism-has-become-and-will-become-state-capacity-libertarianism.html
TWITTER:
@noahpinion (Noah)
@eriktorenberg (Erik)
Music License: ALSJRUP5DSJMZPBU





