The Cartoon Cipher | Why Don’t Official Anime Dubs Edit the Lip Flaps? @TheCartoonCipher | Uploaded January 2018 | Updated October 2024, 3 hours ago.
Special thanks to voice actors Marissa Lenti (@LentiSoup), Matt Shipman (@MattShipmanVO) and Scott Frerichs (@KaiserNeko) for fact-checking the script as well as the video itself. Also thanks to Gigguk (@GiggukAZ) and Scott for providing insight into the abriding process as well as a quote towards the end.
Ok so we’ve gotten this comment A LOT ever since we started these VO-related editorials on our channel and it’s easy to fantasize about the possibilities of re-editing mouth flaps to make anime more like prelay, especially since so many people already do it online. If you used editing to change the amount of flaps, you could theoretically make the animation fit the English translation without compromising the meaning of the original Japanese script or you’d be able to allow actors so much more freedom with their timing since they’d no longer have to conform to locked-in, pre-established footage. However, while we can tell that a lot of people mean well, we felt the need to approach this top from every conceivable angle and specify EXACTLY why editing lip flaps is almost never an option when it comes to officially licensed products...hence why the video is so LOOOOOOOOOOONG
TeamFourStar Episode Breakdown Playlist:
youtube.com/watch?v=3oLboQc8uH4&index=1&list=PL5j80D9V7lqbaNeq5fqlPrf30SOJ5FtG9
Kristi Reed Panel on the scrapped Yu-Gi-Oh! ZEXAL dub: youtube.com/watch?v=3xPs0pM-Pq4
Further information regarding the legal battle for the Yu-Gi-Oh! license can be found in the sources at the bottom of this article:
lostmediawiki.com/Yu-Gi-Oh!_Zexal_(unreleased_alternate_English_dub_of_anime_series;_2012)
SOURCES/Further Viewing:
Anime ADR Process - funimation.com/shows/my-hero-academia/inside-the-episode-38-simuldubs-from-beginning-to-end
Michael Sinterniklaas on 4Kids - youtu.be/pgThSSwFRSE?t=26m47s
Sonic Adventure 2 dialogue issues - youtu.be/pUGOv_dya1s?t=1m42s
Japanese approval for One Piece dub cast - youtu.be/BmWy4X20wug?t=2m22s
Ghost Stories client wanting to maintain names and terminology - youtu.be/bZfhrhM09zI?t=56s
Changing terminology in Attack on Titan - youtu.be/X4mrTvofjeE?t=3m32s
Changed music for Lupin III Part IV on Toonami - pscp.tv/w/1jMJgdaYOnjxL
Scott (KaiserNeko) on parody - twitter.com/KaiserNeko/status/946064536901169152
Scott (KaiserNeko) on the legality and impracticality of editing anime footage for an official product -
twitter.com/KaiserNeko/status/937814100662456321, twitter.com/KaiserNeko/status/937819111949783040
Scott (KaiserNeko) on how HELLS was going to handled - twitter.com/KaiserNeko/status/937826652343676928
Music Featured:
Way Home - Michiru Oshima
Ominous Cloud - Michiru Oshima
Cha-La Head Cha-La Variations - Shunsuke Kikuchi
Strategist - Kensuke Ushio
This is War - 30 Seconds to Mars
Carefree - Michiru Oshima
Duel Madness - Various
Sucy - Michiru Oshima
Nightshift - Force of Nature
Evolution - Toshihiko Sahashi
Vestige - Michiru Oshima
Signum Malum - Yuki Kajiura
Wishy Washy - Kensuke Ushio
Beautiful Silene - Kensuke Ushio
Subete no Atatakai Michi - Masakatsu Takagi
Genkidama - Shunsuke Kikuchi
My Generation - The Who
You Say Run - Yuuki Hayashi
Love - Michiru Oshima
Sin - Michiru Oshima
Tout est perplexe - Shiro Sagisu
From Here to Eternity - Kensuke Ushio
Her Baton - Kensuke Ushio
Go For It!! - Johnny Yong Bosch
They Said… - Kensuke Ushio
Homunculus - Michiru Oshima
Etude No. 3 in E Major Opus 10 - Frederic Chopin (orchestral arrangement by Michiru Oshima)
Narrated & co-written by Eric
Edited & co-written by Abhi
Follow us all on Twitter:
Eric: @MrAJCosplay
Abhi: @RBKapoor1
Marissa Lenti: @LentiSoup
Scott Frerichs: @KaiserNeko
Matt Shipman: @MattShipmanVO
Gigguk: @GiggukAZ
Special thanks to voice actors Marissa Lenti (@LentiSoup), Matt Shipman (@MattShipmanVO) and Scott Frerichs (@KaiserNeko) for fact-checking the script as well as the video itself. Also thanks to Gigguk (@GiggukAZ) and Scott for providing insight into the abriding process as well as a quote towards the end.
Ok so we’ve gotten this comment A LOT ever since we started these VO-related editorials on our channel and it’s easy to fantasize about the possibilities of re-editing mouth flaps to make anime more like prelay, especially since so many people already do it online. If you used editing to change the amount of flaps, you could theoretically make the animation fit the English translation without compromising the meaning of the original Japanese script or you’d be able to allow actors so much more freedom with their timing since they’d no longer have to conform to locked-in, pre-established footage. However, while we can tell that a lot of people mean well, we felt the need to approach this top from every conceivable angle and specify EXACTLY why editing lip flaps is almost never an option when it comes to officially licensed products...hence why the video is so LOOOOOOOOOOONG
TeamFourStar Episode Breakdown Playlist:
youtube.com/watch?v=3oLboQc8uH4&index=1&list=PL5j80D9V7lqbaNeq5fqlPrf30SOJ5FtG9
Kristi Reed Panel on the scrapped Yu-Gi-Oh! ZEXAL dub: youtube.com/watch?v=3xPs0pM-Pq4
Further information regarding the legal battle for the Yu-Gi-Oh! license can be found in the sources at the bottom of this article:
lostmediawiki.com/Yu-Gi-Oh!_Zexal_(unreleased_alternate_English_dub_of_anime_series;_2012)
SOURCES/Further Viewing:
Anime ADR Process - funimation.com/shows/my-hero-academia/inside-the-episode-38-simuldubs-from-beginning-to-end
Michael Sinterniklaas on 4Kids - youtu.be/pgThSSwFRSE?t=26m47s
Sonic Adventure 2 dialogue issues - youtu.be/pUGOv_dya1s?t=1m42s
Japanese approval for One Piece dub cast - youtu.be/BmWy4X20wug?t=2m22s
Ghost Stories client wanting to maintain names and terminology - youtu.be/bZfhrhM09zI?t=56s
Changing terminology in Attack on Titan - youtu.be/X4mrTvofjeE?t=3m32s
Changed music for Lupin III Part IV on Toonami - pscp.tv/w/1jMJgdaYOnjxL
Scott (KaiserNeko) on parody - twitter.com/KaiserNeko/status/946064536901169152
Scott (KaiserNeko) on the legality and impracticality of editing anime footage for an official product -
twitter.com/KaiserNeko/status/937814100662456321, twitter.com/KaiserNeko/status/937819111949783040
Scott (KaiserNeko) on how HELLS was going to handled - twitter.com/KaiserNeko/status/937826652343676928
Music Featured:
Way Home - Michiru Oshima
Ominous Cloud - Michiru Oshima
Cha-La Head Cha-La Variations - Shunsuke Kikuchi
Strategist - Kensuke Ushio
This is War - 30 Seconds to Mars
Carefree - Michiru Oshima
Duel Madness - Various
Sucy - Michiru Oshima
Nightshift - Force of Nature
Evolution - Toshihiko Sahashi
Vestige - Michiru Oshima
Signum Malum - Yuki Kajiura
Wishy Washy - Kensuke Ushio
Beautiful Silene - Kensuke Ushio
Subete no Atatakai Michi - Masakatsu Takagi
Genkidama - Shunsuke Kikuchi
My Generation - The Who
You Say Run - Yuuki Hayashi
Love - Michiru Oshima
Sin - Michiru Oshima
Tout est perplexe - Shiro Sagisu
From Here to Eternity - Kensuke Ushio
Her Baton - Kensuke Ushio
Go For It!! - Johnny Yong Bosch
They Said… - Kensuke Ushio
Homunculus - Michiru Oshima
Etude No. 3 in E Major Opus 10 - Frederic Chopin (orchestral arrangement by Michiru Oshima)
Narrated & co-written by Eric
Edited & co-written by Abhi
Follow us all on Twitter:
Eric: @MrAJCosplay
Abhi: @RBKapoor1
Marissa Lenti: @LentiSoup
Scott Frerichs: @KaiserNeko
Matt Shipman: @MattShipmanVO
Gigguk: @GiggukAZ
