Uploaded July 2025 | Updated September 2026, 2 weeks ago
In this episode of the Climate Confident podcast, I sit down with climate economist Michael Jakob to unpack why the doom narrative around climate change doesn’t hold up, and how economics is actually fuelling the shift to a cleaner future.
Michael is the author of The Case Against Climate Doom, and he’s spent nearly two decades advising governments, contributing to IPCC reports, and analysing the real drivers of climate action. Spoiler: it’s not just policy or protest, it’s prices.
We explore the rapid fall in costs for solar, wind, batteries, and EVs, and how these economic tipping points are accelerating change in ways many people (and governments) haven’t fully clocked yet. Michael also dives into carbon pricing, the political realities of climate policy, and why it’s time to move past fear and focus on opportunity.
Whether you’re a business leader, policymaker, or sustainability professional, this conversation will help reframe how you think about climate progress, and what’s still possible.
🔗 Download Michael’s book for free at: ct-economics.net
🎧 Listen to the full podcast: climateconfidentpodcast.com
Timestamps:
00:00 - Intro
01:12 - Why Michael wrote The Case Against Climate Doom
04:30 - How economics drives climate policy
07:55 - Clean tech tipping points
12:20 - Carbon pricing explained
17:45 - Global progress: Ethiopia, Vietnam & more
23:10 - Fear vs. agency in climate comms
28:40 - Private sector vs. government leadership
33:00 - Why optimism doesn’t mean complacency
🔔 Don’t forget to like, subscribe, and click the bell to get notified when new episodes drop every Wednesday.
In this episode of the Climate Confident podcast, I sit down with climate economist Michael Jakob to unpack why the doom narrative around climate change doesn’t hold up, and how economics is actually fuelling the shift to a cleaner future.
Michael is the author of The Case Against Climate Doom, and he’s spent nearly two decades advising governments, contributing to IPCC reports, and analysing the real drivers of climate action. Spoiler: it’s not just policy or protest, it’s prices.
We explore the rapid fall in costs for solar, wind, batteries, and EVs, and how these economic tipping points are accelerating change in ways many people (and governments) haven’t fully clocked yet. Michael also dives into carbon pricing, the political realities of climate policy, and why it’s time to move past fear and focus on opportunity.
Whether you’re a business leader, policymaker, or sustainability professional, this conversation will help reframe how you think about climate progress, and what’s still possible.
🔗 Download Michael’s book for free at: ct-economics.net
🎧 Listen to the full podcast: climateconfidentpodcast.com
Timestamps:
00:00 - Intro
01:12 - Why Michael wrote The Case Against Climate Doom
04:30 - How economics drives climate policy
07:55 - Clean tech tipping points
12:20 - Carbon pricing explained
17:45 - Global progress: Ethiopia, Vietnam & more
23:10 - Fear vs. agency in climate comms
28:40 - Private sector vs. government leadership
33:00 - Why optimism doesn’t mean complacency
🔔 Don’t forget to like, subscribe, and click the bell to get notified when new episodes drop every Wednesday.
