Draftsmen | Why Be An Artist When There's AI? - Draftsmen S4E01 @Draftsmen | Uploaded November 2022 | Updated October 2024, 1 hour ago.
A lot of things in the art world have changed since the last time Marshall and I talked, perhaps nothing more so than AI art. More and more artists are wondering what this emerging technology means for them. That’s why, in this episode, Marshall and I will catch up and discuss the current landscape of AI art, its ethics, and potential uses. Btw, the same day that we recorded this episode, Steven Zapata released a video about his thoughts that has been passed around widely. His video instantly made our episode outdated! As you listen to this, keep in mind, at that point we had not yet heard Steven's message - youtu.be/tjSxFAGP9Ss
Stan's Drawing Basics Course: proko.com/drawing
CHAPTERS:
0:00 - Intro
0:33 - Revisiting AI
2:05 - Nobody cared, until now.
4:08 - Drawing Basics Course Launch
7:38 - What's the point of drawing by hand if a machine can do it?
10:56 - How can a professional artist compete with AI?
12:18 - Dave McKean
14:30 - Recent Progression and the work of Kirsten Zirngibl
16:31 - Ethical considerations
22:08 - Using artists’ names in prompts
26:45 - What is the difference between art parents influencing human minds and AI?
32:34 - Art of the Prompt
35:28 - Potential Benefit to Non-Visual Artists
38:10 - Flipping the Hypothetical
42:16 - What paradigm should we use to talk about AI art going forward?
44:26 - Stan’s AI experiences and projects
51:43 - Is AI art?
55:17 - Will AI learn taste and be able to make decisions based on that?
58:17 - A prediction
1:00:38 - What other professions will be impacted by AI?
1:03:24 - The future and growing pains
1:08:43 - Humans still want content made by other humans
1:14:35 - Don’t hide behind your art. Be a personality.
SHOW LINKS (some contain affiliate links):
Podcasting Voice Generator - descript.com
Disco Diffusion - discodiffusion.com
Stable Diffusion - stability.ai/blog/stable-diffusion-public-release
Midjourney - midjourney.com/home
Dave McKean - davemckean.com
Interview - youtu.be/I-PaCc96oQM
Kirsten Zirngibl - kirstenzirngibl.com
Kirsten’s presentation - 2022.lightboxexpo.com/guest/kirsten-zirngibl
Karla Ortiz - karlaortizart.com
AI Spectrum from Kirsten’s presentation - static.proko.com/media/images/stan/kz-ai-spectrum-draftsmen-s4e01.jpg
Dorian Iten - dorian-iten.com
Art Parents episode - proko.com/330
CS Lewis - The Abolition of Man (book) - amzn.to/3UaBqfs
Mary Shelley’s Frankenstein - amzn.to/3zukecE
Perspective Box episode - proko.com/369
AI Kim Jung Gi - restofworld.org/2022/ai-backlash-anime-artists
Artwork mentioned - proko.com/692
“Draftsmen” is available in audio. Subscribe on these platforms to keep up to date:
Spotify: bit.ly/DraftsmenPodSp
Stitcher: bit.ly/2JLMShh
Apple: bit.ly/DraftsmenPodA
Google: bit.ly/DraftsmenPodG
#aiart #draftsmen #artpodcast
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Marshall's Art - marshallart.com
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Twitter - twitter.com/StanProkopenko
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CREDITS:
Hosts - Stan Prokopenko (http://www.stanprokopenko.com), Marshall Vandruff (marshallart.com/)
Production Assistance - Alex Otis (instagram.com/alexotisillustration/, Charlie Nicholson (instagram.com/shloogorgh/, Ellie Polk (instagram.com/the.mccartski/)
Editing - Charlie Nicholson
Intro Animation - Cody Shank (codyshank.com/)
Intro Jingle - Tommy Rush (instagram.com/tommyrush/)
Music Used with Permission Intro - The Freak Fandango Orchestra
A lot of things in the art world have changed since the last time Marshall and I talked, perhaps nothing more so than AI art. More and more artists are wondering what this emerging technology means for them. That’s why, in this episode, Marshall and I will catch up and discuss the current landscape of AI art, its ethics, and potential uses. Btw, the same day that we recorded this episode, Steven Zapata released a video about his thoughts that has been passed around widely. His video instantly made our episode outdated! As you listen to this, keep in mind, at that point we had not yet heard Steven's message - youtu.be/tjSxFAGP9Ss
Stan's Drawing Basics Course: proko.com/drawing
CHAPTERS:
0:00 - Intro
0:33 - Revisiting AI
2:05 - Nobody cared, until now.
4:08 - Drawing Basics Course Launch
7:38 - What's the point of drawing by hand if a machine can do it?
10:56 - How can a professional artist compete with AI?
12:18 - Dave McKean
14:30 - Recent Progression and the work of Kirsten Zirngibl
16:31 - Ethical considerations
22:08 - Using artists’ names in prompts
26:45 - What is the difference between art parents influencing human minds and AI?
32:34 - Art of the Prompt
35:28 - Potential Benefit to Non-Visual Artists
38:10 - Flipping the Hypothetical
42:16 - What paradigm should we use to talk about AI art going forward?
44:26 - Stan’s AI experiences and projects
51:43 - Is AI art?
55:17 - Will AI learn taste and be able to make decisions based on that?
58:17 - A prediction
1:00:38 - What other professions will be impacted by AI?
1:03:24 - The future and growing pains
1:08:43 - Humans still want content made by other humans
1:14:35 - Don’t hide behind your art. Be a personality.
SHOW LINKS (some contain affiliate links):
Podcasting Voice Generator - descript.com
Disco Diffusion - discodiffusion.com
Stable Diffusion - stability.ai/blog/stable-diffusion-public-release
Midjourney - midjourney.com/home
Dave McKean - davemckean.com
Interview - youtu.be/I-PaCc96oQM
Kirsten Zirngibl - kirstenzirngibl.com
Kirsten’s presentation - 2022.lightboxexpo.com/guest/kirsten-zirngibl
Karla Ortiz - karlaortizart.com
AI Spectrum from Kirsten’s presentation - static.proko.com/media/images/stan/kz-ai-spectrum-draftsmen-s4e01.jpg
Dorian Iten - dorian-iten.com
Art Parents episode - proko.com/330
CS Lewis - The Abolition of Man (book) - amzn.to/3UaBqfs
Mary Shelley’s Frankenstein - amzn.to/3zukecE
Perspective Box episode - proko.com/369
AI Kim Jung Gi - restofworld.org/2022/ai-backlash-anime-artists
Artwork mentioned - proko.com/692
“Draftsmen” is available in audio. Subscribe on these platforms to keep up to date:
Spotify: bit.ly/DraftsmenPodSp
Stitcher: bit.ly/2JLMShh
Apple: bit.ly/DraftsmenPodA
Google: bit.ly/DraftsmenPodG
#aiart #draftsmen #artpodcast
FOLLOW PROKO:
Marshall's Art - marshallart.com
Email Newsletter- proko.com/subscribe
Instagram - instagram.com/stanprokopenko
Twitter - twitter.com/StanProkopenko
Facebook - facebook.com/prokotv
Tumblr - stanprokopenko.tumblr.com
Pinterest - pinterest.com/stanprokopenko
CREDITS:
Hosts - Stan Prokopenko (http://www.stanprokopenko.com), Marshall Vandruff (marshallart.com/)
Production Assistance - Alex Otis (instagram.com/alexotisillustration/, Charlie Nicholson (instagram.com/shloogorgh/, Ellie Polk (instagram.com/the.mccartski/)
Editing - Charlie Nicholson
Intro Animation - Cody Shank (codyshank.com/)
Intro Jingle - Tommy Rush (instagram.com/tommyrush/)
Music Used with Permission Intro - The Freak Fandango Orchestra
