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In this episode of the Muscle Intelligence Podcast, Ben Pakulski sits down with Stephane Cazeault and Pauric O'Rourke of KILO Strength Society to break down the science of intelligent programming. Together, they reveal how to build strength that lasts, create systems that evolve over decades, and avoid the common mistakes that limit progress. From Olympic-style periodization to practical applications for everyday athletes, this episode bridges elite theory and real-world execution. Whether you’re a coach, athlete, or driven executive looking to optimize your training and longevity, this conversation will redefine how you think about programming for performance.
Points To Watch Out For:
- The missing link between strength, hypertrophy, and longevity
- Why most programming fails after the first 12 weeks
- How to assess and progress clients for long-term results
- The difference between intermuscular and intramuscular coordination
- Building adaptable systems for athletes and gen pop
If you're interested in working with Ben.
ben@muscleintelligence.com
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Whenever you're ready... here are 3 ways we can help you look, feel and perform at your best:
1. Grab a free copy of 1 of our BRAND NEW Peak Performance Protocols.
This is for high performers looking to 10x their training and nutrition results by becoming 10x more effective.
Click here - go.muscleintelligence.com/high-performance-executive-report
2. Join the Muscle Intelligence Community and connect with other men like you who want to uplevel their health and fitness.
It’s our new Facebook group where I coach members live, share what’s working with my private clients and announce tickets to my upcoming trainings and events.
Click here - muscleintelligence.com/community
3. Work with me 1-on-1
If you’re a top performing executive or entrepreneur who wants a fully customized comprehensive health protocol and support from a team of world-class specialists, click here to speak with a member of my team to review all of your goals and options: muscleintelligence.com/apply?utm_campaign=YT
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About Ben
Ben Pakulski is the Chief Performance Officer to elite executives, successful entrepreneurs, and top athletes.With over 25 years of experience, he coaches high achievers to build the physical, psychological, and metabolic resilience required to lead at the highest level. As the creator of the Muscle Intelligence framework, Ben specializes in aligning biology and behavior to drive sustained peak performance. His mission is to redefine what’s possible for people in their prime and push the boundaries of human potential.
Guest Bio
Stephane Cazeault and Pauric O'Rourke are co-founders of KILO Strength Society, one of the world’s leading education companies for strength coaches and performance professionals. Both are former Poliquin Group educators who’ve trained elite athletes across the NHL, NFL, MLB, and Olympic levels. Their system blends biomechanics, physiology, and long-term periodization into practical, results-driven programming. Based in Fort Lauderdale, KILO teaches the next generation of coaches how to write programs that actually work — scalable, progressive, and built for results that last decades, not weeks. Together, Stephane and Pauric continue Charles Poliquin’s legacy by empowering coaches and athletes to pursue mastery through intelligent, data-driven training systems.
Time Stamps:
00:00 – Intro: The Future of Intelligent Training
06:15 – Why Most Coaches Get Programming Wrong
10:05 – The Missing Link in Long-Term Results
14:10 – How to Build Systems for Lifelong Progress
16:00 – The KILO Assessment: What Elite Coaches Do Differently
20:00 – Mobility vs. Stability: What Really Limits Strength
22:30 – How to Choose the Right Exercise for Any Client
26:15 – The Science of Training Volume & Recovery
31:00 – Do Men and Women Need Different Programs?
37:00 – Training for Decades, Not Just 12 Weeks
43:15 – The Secret to Selecting the Right Lifts
45:40 – Why You Must Train All Ranges of Motion
52:30 – How Often You Should Rehearse Each Lift
1:02:00 – Fat Loss vs. Strength: What to Focus on First
1:04:15 – The Hidden Science Behind Hypertrophy & Work Capacity
Double Your Income With The Only Certification That Guarantees Results For Your Clients
muscleexpert.com
In this episode of the Muscle Intelligence Podcast, Ben Pakulski sits down with Stephane Cazeault and Pauric O'Rourke of KILO Strength Society to break down the science of intelligent programming. Together, they reveal how to build strength that lasts, create systems that evolve over decades, and avoid the common mistakes that limit progress. From Olympic-style periodization to practical applications for everyday athletes, this episode bridges elite theory and real-world execution. Whether you’re a coach, athlete, or driven executive looking to optimize your training and longevity, this conversation will redefine how you think about programming for performance.
Points To Watch Out For:
- The missing link between strength, hypertrophy, and longevity
- Why most programming fails after the first 12 weeks
- How to assess and progress clients for long-term results
- The difference between intermuscular and intramuscular coordination
- Building adaptable systems for athletes and gen pop
If you're interested in working with Ben.
ben@muscleintelligence.com
Join 200,000 men in their prime, reading our weekly newsletter:
muscleintelligence.com/newsletter
Unlock Your Full Muscle Building Potential With Our Complete Training Guides:
go.muscleintelligence.com/bodypart
Hypertrophy Execution Mastery:
The most comprehensive MI40 muscle-building program EVER!
hypertrophymastery.com
Whenever you're ready... here are 3 ways we can help you look, feel and perform at your best:
1. Grab a free copy of 1 of our BRAND NEW Peak Performance Protocols.
This is for high performers looking to 10x their training and nutrition results by becoming 10x more effective.
Click here - go.muscleintelligence.com/high-performance-executive-report
2. Join the Muscle Intelligence Community and connect with other men like you who want to uplevel their health and fitness.
It’s our new Facebook group where I coach members live, share what’s working with my private clients and announce tickets to my upcoming trainings and events.
Click here - muscleintelligence.com/community
3. Work with me 1-on-1
If you’re a top performing executive or entrepreneur who wants a fully customized comprehensive health protocol and support from a team of world-class specialists, click here to speak with a member of my team to review all of your goals and options: muscleintelligence.com/apply?utm_campaign=YT
Learn More About The Kilo Society
trainkilo.com
About Ben
Ben Pakulski is the Chief Performance Officer to elite executives, successful entrepreneurs, and top athletes.With over 25 years of experience, he coaches high achievers to build the physical, psychological, and metabolic resilience required to lead at the highest level. As the creator of the Muscle Intelligence framework, Ben specializes in aligning biology and behavior to drive sustained peak performance. His mission is to redefine what’s possible for people in their prime and push the boundaries of human potential.
Guest Bio
Stephane Cazeault and Pauric O'Rourke are co-founders of KILO Strength Society, one of the world’s leading education companies for strength coaches and performance professionals. Both are former Poliquin Group educators who’ve trained elite athletes across the NHL, NFL, MLB, and Olympic levels. Their system blends biomechanics, physiology, and long-term periodization into practical, results-driven programming. Based in Fort Lauderdale, KILO teaches the next generation of coaches how to write programs that actually work — scalable, progressive, and built for results that last decades, not weeks. Together, Stephane and Pauric continue Charles Poliquin’s legacy by empowering coaches and athletes to pursue mastery through intelligent, data-driven training systems.
Time Stamps:
00:00 – Intro: The Future of Intelligent Training
06:15 – Why Most Coaches Get Programming Wrong
10:05 – The Missing Link in Long-Term Results
14:10 – How to Build Systems for Lifelong Progress
16:00 – The KILO Assessment: What Elite Coaches Do Differently
20:00 – Mobility vs. Stability: What Really Limits Strength
22:30 – How to Choose the Right Exercise for Any Client
26:15 – The Science of Training Volume & Recovery
31:00 – Do Men and Women Need Different Programs?
37:00 – Training for Decades, Not Just 12 Weeks
43:15 – The Secret to Selecting the Right Lifts
45:40 – Why You Must Train All Ranges of Motion
52:30 – How Often You Should Rehearse Each Lift
1:02:00 – Fat Loss vs. Strength: What to Focus on First
1:04:15 – The Hidden Science Behind Hypertrophy & Work Capacity
