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In Quaker meeting for worship, anyone can stand and speak out of the silence. But how do you know?
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Paul Motz-Storey: Quakers often say that there are some times that a message is meant for you alone and some times it’s meant for the meeting as a whole. For me it’s clear, because I am an introvert. I don’t like to speak in public and I get very nervous speaking in public. So if I don’t want to do it but I feel compelled to do it, then I know I’m meant to do it.
When to Speak in Quaker Worship
Melinda Wenner Bradley: How do you know when to speak in meeting for worship? The first part of the answer is that we are all invited to both be listening inwardly and sharing outwardly.
William Wolf: A big part of my Quakerism is trying to bring God into the worship. If there is God in all of us then any of us should be able to tap into that and bring that Spirit forward to the community.
Carter Nash: If you feel that you have been given a message from the Spirit, from God, from that love that is within you, and you have tested it to make sure it is from God and not your ego, then you speak.
Expectant Waiting
Julia Carrigan: The virtue of Quaker silent unprogrammed meeting is that it is inherently unplanned. Tom Hoopes, the religion teacher at George School, likes to say, “Your only job is to show up.” I think that really strikes a chord with me, when you can come into a space and all you have to do is be there. And that’s a lot, because you have to really be there and be present if you want to get the most out of your meeting.
Kri Burkander: We’re waiting. We’re not just sitting there, there’s a thing that we’re doing. We expectantly waiting. We expect something to happen. One of the great ideas about Quakerism is that we didn’t need an intermediary between ourselves and God, that we could have a direct, personal relationship with God and that’s what worship is all about. The idea is that it is God among us speaking through whoever is gathered.
Testing a Message
Pamela Haines: So when I’m sitting in meeting, how do I know when to speak? It’s a really hard one. I notice my heartbeat, and if my heartbeat gets going and doesn’t stop, that’s one sign. I ask myself: is this just something that I’m thinking about or is this something that comes from a deeper place? I ask myself: can I not stand up?
Melinda Wenner Bradley: We often talk about asking ourselves 3 questions as a test, as a way of querying ourselves and testing whether or not to stand. The first question is, “Does this message feel like it comes from spirit?” Does it feel like it comes from within? Does it feel like it comes from here (heart) and not from here (head). The second question would be, “Is this message for me or is it for others?” Is this for me to share? The third question is, “Is it for now or is it for later?” Is it something that out of the silence of worship, that out of this space together and this communal waiting, that I might share with those gathered? Or is it for some other time, is it for later?
Feeling Compelled
Ayesha Imani: For me, it’s when I reach that point that I’m shaking. I’m feeling like this has to come out because it’s something coming through me. And that it’s not about me. The speaking is done in community, and so it’s not about me sharing my thoughts. I think Jeremiah talks about fire that showed up in his bones and he just had to say something. A good practice is to speak when you feel that you have to, not simply that you want to: that if you don’t speak, you’re not going to be at peace.
Julia Carrigan: I know for me there’s like this buzz in my stomach. You’re shaking and you’re like, “Oh, I’ve got something to say!” There’s this link for me that’s spiritual to mental, mental to physical. I feel like the spirit comes into my brain and tells me to say something, and then my brain is making me physically need to stand up.
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In Quaker meeting for worship, anyone can stand and speak out of the silence. But how do you know?
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Paul Motz-Storey: Quakers often say that there are some times that a message is meant for you alone and some times it’s meant for the meeting as a whole. For me it’s clear, because I am an introvert. I don’t like to speak in public and I get very nervous speaking in public. So if I don’t want to do it but I feel compelled to do it, then I know I’m meant to do it.
When to Speak in Quaker Worship
Melinda Wenner Bradley: How do you know when to speak in meeting for worship? The first part of the answer is that we are all invited to both be listening inwardly and sharing outwardly.
William Wolf: A big part of my Quakerism is trying to bring God into the worship. If there is God in all of us then any of us should be able to tap into that and bring that Spirit forward to the community.
Carter Nash: If you feel that you have been given a message from the Spirit, from God, from that love that is within you, and you have tested it to make sure it is from God and not your ego, then you speak.
Expectant Waiting
Julia Carrigan: The virtue of Quaker silent unprogrammed meeting is that it is inherently unplanned. Tom Hoopes, the religion teacher at George School, likes to say, “Your only job is to show up.” I think that really strikes a chord with me, when you can come into a space and all you have to do is be there. And that’s a lot, because you have to really be there and be present if you want to get the most out of your meeting.
Kri Burkander: We’re waiting. We’re not just sitting there, there’s a thing that we’re doing. We expectantly waiting. We expect something to happen. One of the great ideas about Quakerism is that we didn’t need an intermediary between ourselves and God, that we could have a direct, personal relationship with God and that’s what worship is all about. The idea is that it is God among us speaking through whoever is gathered.
Testing a Message
Pamela Haines: So when I’m sitting in meeting, how do I know when to speak? It’s a really hard one. I notice my heartbeat, and if my heartbeat gets going and doesn’t stop, that’s one sign. I ask myself: is this just something that I’m thinking about or is this something that comes from a deeper place? I ask myself: can I not stand up?
Melinda Wenner Bradley: We often talk about asking ourselves 3 questions as a test, as a way of querying ourselves and testing whether or not to stand. The first question is, “Does this message feel like it comes from spirit?” Does it feel like it comes from within? Does it feel like it comes from here (heart) and not from here (head). The second question would be, “Is this message for me or is it for others?” Is this for me to share? The third question is, “Is it for now or is it for later?” Is it something that out of the silence of worship, that out of this space together and this communal waiting, that I might share with those gathered? Or is it for some other time, is it for later?
Feeling Compelled
Ayesha Imani: For me, it’s when I reach that point that I’m shaking. I’m feeling like this has to come out because it’s something coming through me. And that it’s not about me. The speaking is done in community, and so it’s not about me sharing my thoughts. I think Jeremiah talks about fire that showed up in his bones and he just had to say something. A good practice is to speak when you feel that you have to, not simply that you want to: that if you don’t speak, you’re not going to be at peace.
Julia Carrigan: I know for me there’s like this buzz in my stomach. You’re shaking and you’re like, “Oh, I’ve got something to say!” There’s this link for me that’s spiritual to mental, mental to physical. I feel like the spirit comes into my brain and tells me to say something, and then my brain is making me physically need to stand up.
More: https://fdsj.nl/speak
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![Practicing the Spirituality of Lightheartedness
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I can remember Margret Baker and I getting the giggles at a business meeting one time when everybody was just horrified that nobody had answered the telephone for two years. Just nobody had ever been assigned the task! We have all these hundred committees and that one just never got assigned, and she and I just cracked up. Everybody else was stroking their beard over it but you know, we bumble through life as best we can and you might as well laugh.
Practicing the Spirituality of Lightheartedness
Im Mosi Harrington. I live in Hyattsville, Maryland (at the edge of DC), and I am a member of Adelphi Friends Meeting.
Theres a Pendle Hill pamphlet, which is a series of Quaker pamphlets, called The Spirituality of Lightheartedness, and in the pamphlet she [Helen Steere Horn] maintains that were called to joy, and that Jesus said that we could lay down our burdens and rest, and that the psalms say that we can find a path of joy. She feels that there was, uh that Jesus had a sense of humor; that calling Peter the rock was a nickname, a playful nickname, and that a lot of the analogies he used were casual talk. When you said, um, You cant go through the eye of a needle, or something like that it was the equivalent of us saying, you know, A snowballs chance in hell or something. It was that kind of language, and that weve lost a lot of that. Its definitely one of our Quaker faults that we take ourselves too seriously, and it gets in the way sometimes of us doing good work. And... We tend to be judgmental sometimes. You dont associate with someone who doesnt recycle? Well, that person might be doing prison visitation and youre not! So there are all kinds of ways of being more forgiving. God has put us in this gorgeous world and if we just go like little moles, looking neither to the right or left, I think that frankly, God gets pissed and thats when we are unhappy.
Lightheartedness in Dark Times
Part of the spirituality of lightheartedness is that it can get us through dark times and I have just numerous examples of times when it has done that. We had a friend in meeting who, in her will, wanted to leave her kids laughing and she left the thing that they hated the most to each child. So somebody got the old fainting couch with the stuffing coming out and somebody got the 20 year collection of National Geographics, and they roared, you know, at this somber, tearful scene of getting the will read, they laughed. Someone else was in a mens group with somebody in meeting, and the person was dying and he went to visit and he took a joke book, and his wife said, I dont think thats the right thing, but he took it anyway and they just roared with laughter. And sometimes if youre in an ongoing situation you develop a little bit of dark humor that get you through things, and I think its a gift and I think its the spirit moving in us, not to take ourselves so seriously. Youre a child of God, but there are billions of children of God, and theyre all working many of them want to leave the world a better place. Its really not all on you, and to take yourself too seriously is really an act of arrogance, and we just need to relax and enjoy.
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