Uploaded May 2026 | Updated September 2026, 3 weeks ago
Frank Schaeffer talks with Vatican journalist Elise Ann Allen, the first reporter to interview Pope Leo XIV after his election, about her new biography of the pope and the man behind the headlines.
This becomes a conversation about friendship, humility, moral leadership, faith, power, technology, immigration, and what it means to remain human in an age that often rewards cruelty and spectacle.
Elise reflects on her personal friendship with Pope Leo, his years serving the poor in Peru, the influence of Pope Francis, and why she believes Leo may become one of the defining moral voices of this century.
Frank also shares why the book affected him so deeply and why he believes Leo speaks to people far beyond the Catholic Church.
A thoughtful and deeply personal conversation about humanity, conscience, and hope.
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LINKS
cruxnow.com/author/elise-ann-allen
Our May It Has to Be Read. offering,
"Pope Leo XIV" on Bookshop
bookshop.org/a/99692/9798217155705
Frank Schaeffer talks with Vatican journalist Elise Ann Allen, the first reporter to interview Pope Leo XIV after his election, about her new biography of the pope and the man behind the headlines.
This becomes a conversation about friendship, humility, moral leadership, faith, power, technology, immigration, and what it means to remain human in an age that often rewards cruelty and spectacle.
Elise reflects on her personal friendship with Pope Leo, his years serving the poor in Peru, the influence of Pope Francis, and why she believes Leo may become one of the defining moral voices of this century.
Frank also shares why the book affected him so deeply and why he believes Leo speaks to people far beyond the Catholic Church.
A thoughtful and deeply personal conversation about humanity, conscience, and hope.
_____
LINKS
cruxnow.com/author/elise-ann-allen
Our May It Has to Be Read. offering,
"Pope Leo XIV" on Bookshop
bookshop.org/a/99692/9798217155705
