Uploaded June 2026 | Updated September 2026, 1 hour ago
On DANGER CLOSE: THE FOURTH OPTION, I’m joined by Ben and Jessica Owen, founders of We Fight Monsters, an organization dedicated to confronting trafficking and addiction with a lawful, boots-on-the-ground response.
Ben and Jessica share their own battles with addiction, homelessness, and life inside trap houses in South Memphis, and how recovery led to restoration and a calling to go back for others.
We get into their mission to Rescue, Recover, and Restore, the reality of addiction as a tool of control, the connection between narcotics and exploitation, their work converting former dope houses into recovery spaces, their experience running safe houses during the Afghanistan evacuation, and why redemption often begins by helping others.
This is a companion podcast to my new thriller, THE FOURTH OPTION, talking to those on the front lines, analyzing modern warfare, and taking listeners deeper into the themes that inspired the novel.
This podcast series is presented by HUXWRX Safety Co., Staccato 2011, and Bravo Company.
THE FOURTH OPTION :
officialjackcarr.com/books/the-fourth-option
Order on Amazon: amzn.to/4sZEdJS
To learn more about We Fight Monsters, visit wefightmonsters.org
On DANGER CLOSE: THE FOURTH OPTION, I’m joined by Ben and Jessica Owen, founders of We Fight Monsters, an organization dedicated to confronting trafficking and addiction with a lawful, boots-on-the-ground response.
Ben and Jessica share their own battles with addiction, homelessness, and life inside trap houses in South Memphis, and how recovery led to restoration and a calling to go back for others.
We get into their mission to Rescue, Recover, and Restore, the reality of addiction as a tool of control, the connection between narcotics and exploitation, their work converting former dope houses into recovery spaces, their experience running safe houses during the Afghanistan evacuation, and why redemption often begins by helping others.
This is a companion podcast to my new thriller, THE FOURTH OPTION, talking to those on the front lines, analyzing modern warfare, and taking listeners deeper into the themes that inspired the novel.
This podcast series is presented by HUXWRX Safety Co., Staccato 2011, and Bravo Company.
THE FOURTH OPTION :
officialjackcarr.com/books/the-fourth-option
Order on Amazon: amzn.to/4sZEdJS
To learn more about We Fight Monsters, visit wefightmonsters.org
