Uploaded May 2026 | Updated September 2026, 2 weeks ago
In this episode of “The David Frum Show,” The Atlantic’s David Frum opens with his reaction to recent reporting surrounding the Trump family’s “patriotic,” Trump-branded cellphones. David explains how this is yet another instance of the most powerful sowing doubt about the fairness of American business and destroying confidence in the ideals of American enterprise.
Then, David is joined by Lloyd Blankfein, a former chairman and CEO of Goldman Sachs, for a wide-ranging conversation about the current state of the American economy. They discuss Blankfein’s new memoir, “Streetwise”; the expanding American debt; the American people’s faith in the economy; and the challenges that lie ahead.
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00:00 Introduction
00:44 Trump Phone Fiasco
02:27 Defending the Ideals of American Enterprise
05:27 Trump Era Deficits
08:14 Lloyd Blankfein
09:24 Economy Outlook
13:14 Markets and Gulf War Shock
15:55 Deficits Nobody Fixes
20:49 How America Defaults
24:20 Rates Housing and Crisis Trigger
29:03 Inflation Memories
30:27 Discipline Versus Spending
33:19 Targeted Tax Break Trap
35:43 Preparing For The Next Crisis
36:29 Deficit Worry And Polarization
39:13 Resentment Of Wealth
43:12 Generational Gloom Debate
50:02 Optimism About America
In this episode of “The David Frum Show,” The Atlantic’s David Frum opens with his reaction to recent reporting surrounding the Trump family’s “patriotic,” Trump-branded cellphones. David explains how this is yet another instance of the most powerful sowing doubt about the fairness of American business and destroying confidence in the ideals of American enterprise.
Then, David is joined by Lloyd Blankfein, a former chairman and CEO of Goldman Sachs, for a wide-ranging conversation about the current state of the American economy. They discuss Blankfein’s new memoir, “Streetwise”; the expanding American debt; the American people’s faith in the economy; and the challenges that lie ahead.
Sign up for David Frum’s newsletter alert to find out when a new story is published: theatlantic.com/author/david-frum/?follow=true&utm_campaign=frum-yt
Subscribe to “The David Frum Show” on Apple Podcasts: podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-david-frum-show/id1305908387
Subscribe to “The David Frum Show” on Spotify: open.spotify.com/show/79CBHEDdEbdykveVgbpWs7
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00:00 Introduction
00:44 Trump Phone Fiasco
02:27 Defending the Ideals of American Enterprise
05:27 Trump Era Deficits
08:14 Lloyd Blankfein
09:24 Economy Outlook
13:14 Markets and Gulf War Shock
15:55 Deficits Nobody Fixes
20:49 How America Defaults
24:20 Rates Housing and Crisis Trigger
29:03 Inflation Memories
30:27 Discipline Versus Spending
33:19 Targeted Tax Break Trap
35:43 Preparing For The Next Crisis
36:29 Deficit Worry And Polarization
39:13 Resentment Of Wealth
43:12 Generational Gloom Debate
50:02 Optimism About America
