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In her upcoming book “The Rise and Fall of the Artificial State,” Pulitzer-winner Jill Lepore warns that tech companies are increasingly replacing the functions of democratic government. What happens when private corporations take over the basic duties of the state? And will A.I. kill liberal democracy for good? (Guest: Jill Lepore)

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