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In this episode, Dr. Tony Nader sits down with Dr. Keith Frankish to discuss Consciousness and the nature of ultimate reality. Is consciousness an illusion? Or is it the illusion that appears as physical?
Dr. Keith Frankish is a British philosopher and writer specializing in philosophy of mind, philosophy of psychology, and philosophy of cognitive science. He is an Honorary Professor in the Philosophy Department at the University of Sheffield, UK, a Visiting Research Fellow with the Open University, UK, and an Adjunct Professor with the Brain and Mind Programme at the University of Crete. He is known for his "illusionist" stance in the theory of consciousness. Dr. Frankish also hosts two podcasts, “Mind to Mind”, and “Mind Chat” with philosopher Dr. Philip Goff.
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Consciousness Is All There Is | Podcast
iTunes: podcasts.apple.com/ca/podcast/consciousness-is-all-there-is/id1472371019
Spotify: open.spotify.com/show/0xeUiVxTJP4kxI5Sb6vnLU?si=ad05aa5763cc48e6
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0:00 Introduction
1:40 The Story Behind Dr. Frankish’s Viewpoint of Consciousness
4:02 Dr. Frankish’s Dissatisfaction with Mainstream Physicalist Perspectives
5:00 Dr. Frankish’s Dissatisfaction with Mainstream Non-Physicalist Perspectives
7:00 Dr. Frankish’s Perspective on Consciousness
9:23 Is The World Around Us an Illusion?
11:20 Analyzing Dualistic, Monistic, and Physicalistic Perspectives of Reality
12:44 Are Our Senses Fooling Us?
15:52 What is the Most Fundamental Level of Reality?
18:03 Dr. Frankish’s Preference of Unity at a Fundamental Level
19:04 What is the Ultimate Reality?
20:45 Dr. Frankish’s Analysis of The Different Definitions of Consciousness
24:44 Access Consciousness and Phenomenal Consciousness
25:51 Analyzing Experiences in Relation to Personal Perspective and Consciousness
31:41 What are the Mechanics of Reality in Our Daily Lives?
34:20 Dr. Frankish’s Perspective on Reality
35:52 Distinctive Reactions and Their Impact on Personal Experience
40:54 Reality is Different for Different Observers
41:52 Reality's Three Aspects: Observer, Process of Observation, Observed
43:23 Expanding the Definition of Consciousness
44:26 “Consciousness as Fundamental” Explained
47:36 Dr. Frankish’s Analysis of “Observer, Process of Observation, Observed”
48:57 A Dynamic and Unified Picture of Consciousness
50:41 Resolving the Combination Problem
52:34 Dr. Frankish’s Analysis of Dr. Nader’s Perspective
55:52 Experience of the Transcendent
57:28 Focusing on the Positive Effect Rather Than Its Fundamental Nature
59:08 Ethics, Telos, and the Constant Desire to Know More
1:01:47 Determinism
1:04:25 The Vedantic Definition of Illusion
1:05:16 Breaking Down the Dualist Perspective of Consciousness
1:08:41 The Importance of Open Discussion and Understanding Other Perspectives
In this episode, Dr. Tony Nader sits down with Dr. Keith Frankish to discuss Consciousness and the nature of ultimate reality. Is consciousness an illusion? Or is it the illusion that appears as physical?
Dr. Keith Frankish is a British philosopher and writer specializing in philosophy of mind, philosophy of psychology, and philosophy of cognitive science. He is an Honorary Professor in the Philosophy Department at the University of Sheffield, UK, a Visiting Research Fellow with the Open University, UK, and an Adjunct Professor with the Brain and Mind Programme at the University of Crete. He is known for his "illusionist" stance in the theory of consciousness. Dr. Frankish also hosts two podcasts, “Mind to Mind”, and “Mind Chat” with philosopher Dr. Philip Goff.
Dr Keith Frankish | Twitter
twitter.com/keithfrankish
Dr Keith Frankish | Website
keithfrankish.com
Dr Keith Frankish | Mind Chat with Dr. Philip Goff
youtube.com/c/mindchat
Dr Tony Nader | Books
drnaderbooks.com
Dr Tony Nader | Website
drtonynader.com
Dr Tony Nader | Instagram
instagram.com/drtonynader
Dr Tony Nader | Twitter
twitter.com/drtonynader
Dr Tony Nader | YouTube
youtube.com/DrTonyNader
Dr Tony Nader | LinkedIn
linkedin.com/company/dr-tony-nader
Consciousness Is All There Is | Podcast
iTunes: podcasts.apple.com/ca/podcast/consciousness-is-all-there-is/id1472371019
Spotify: open.spotify.com/show/0xeUiVxTJP4kxI5Sb6vnLU?si=ad05aa5763cc48e6
SoundCloud:
soundcloud.com/drtonynader
0:00 Introduction
1:40 The Story Behind Dr. Frankish’s Viewpoint of Consciousness
4:02 Dr. Frankish’s Dissatisfaction with Mainstream Physicalist Perspectives
5:00 Dr. Frankish’s Dissatisfaction with Mainstream Non-Physicalist Perspectives
7:00 Dr. Frankish’s Perspective on Consciousness
9:23 Is The World Around Us an Illusion?
11:20 Analyzing Dualistic, Monistic, and Physicalistic Perspectives of Reality
12:44 Are Our Senses Fooling Us?
15:52 What is the Most Fundamental Level of Reality?
18:03 Dr. Frankish’s Preference of Unity at a Fundamental Level
19:04 What is the Ultimate Reality?
20:45 Dr. Frankish’s Analysis of The Different Definitions of Consciousness
24:44 Access Consciousness and Phenomenal Consciousness
25:51 Analyzing Experiences in Relation to Personal Perspective and Consciousness
31:41 What are the Mechanics of Reality in Our Daily Lives?
34:20 Dr. Frankish’s Perspective on Reality
35:52 Distinctive Reactions and Their Impact on Personal Experience
40:54 Reality is Different for Different Observers
41:52 Reality's Three Aspects: Observer, Process of Observation, Observed
43:23 Expanding the Definition of Consciousness
44:26 “Consciousness as Fundamental” Explained
47:36 Dr. Frankish’s Analysis of “Observer, Process of Observation, Observed”
48:57 A Dynamic and Unified Picture of Consciousness
50:41 Resolving the Combination Problem
52:34 Dr. Frankish’s Analysis of Dr. Nader’s Perspective
55:52 Experience of the Transcendent
57:28 Focusing on the Positive Effect Rather Than Its Fundamental Nature
59:08 Ethics, Telos, and the Constant Desire to Know More
1:01:47 Determinism
1:04:25 The Vedantic Definition of Illusion
1:05:16 Breaking Down the Dualist Perspective of Consciousness
1:08:41 The Importance of Open Discussion and Understanding Other Perspectives
