Uploaded June 2026 | Updated September 2026, 2 weeks ago

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Dr. LaNail Plummer joins Travis Heath for a conversation about counseling Black women, resilience, joy, and healing. Together, they explore why good intentions alone aren't enough, how countertransference shapes clinical work, and what therapists can learn from the lived experiences of Black women. An honest and thought-provoking episode about creating spaces where people can finally put down the burden of always having to be strong.

00:00 Introduction
08:00 Cultural Competency in One Class?!
16:50 Well-Intended Isn't Enough
21:56 The Cost of Resilience
27:04 When Ambition Becomes a Burden
33:04 Why Politics Belong in Therapy
39:54 Creating Spaces for Joy
44:55 Finding Inspiration in Transformation
49:05 Where to Find More from Dr Plummer