We Just Interviewed the Sheriff. Here Is Where We Think She Is Wrong. @GunOwnersRadio
We Just Interviewed the Sheriff. Here Is Where We Think She Is Wrong.  @GunOwnersRadio
Uploaded August 2026 | Updated September 2026, 2 weeks ago
The Sheriff left the studio and we kept the cameras rolling. This is the honest read on the interview, including the part where we do not agree with her.

Her position is that lying on a CCW application tells her something about how truthful you would be in an investigation after a defensive shooting. Ours is that most people who fail to disclose are not lying, they simply did not understand what was being asked, and calling them liars is wrong before you even get to the penalty.

In this segment:

- Our honest read on how she handled the questions, and why her refusal to give personal opinions earned respect rather than frustration
- Why Dakota only speaks publicly on the Second Amendment and nothing else
- Legislators make policy, executives carry it out, and why a sheriff is further from a policymaker than most people think
- Why Bianco in Riverside and Barnes in Orange County fit their counties and would not fit purple San Diego
- The one answer that changes what we tell students from here on
- Where we disagree: fewer than 0.1% of permit holders are ever involved in a shooting, and we let people who lie buy and drive cars
- Three of us, three real examples: a DV report pulled before applying, an email to licensing after remembering a traffic stop, and an application that said "I am positive I got a ticket and I keep no records"
- Why deputies read a form error as a lie, and why that is understandable but still not acceptable
- Cop movies, and the case for a full John Milius segment
- Coming up next week: the Maryland map that redlines an entire state

Watch the full interview with Sheriff Kelly Martinez in the Episode 520 full show.

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