Uploaded April 2025 | Updated September 2026, 2 weeks ago
This was a really frustrating experience. This level is very poorly balanced in the sense that one player has to play a low end hard demon and the other player has to play a very inconsistent low end extreme demon. I did the extreme demon side, and it was extremely first half heavy and contained some very frustrating gameplay mechanics.
To summarise what my part played like, the ship at the start of the drop killed off a good portion of drop attempts, and then the mini UFO shortly after was structured very poorly due to the blocks above and below the gravity portals being much too difficult to avoid consistently. That was followed by a very chokable wave which was made much more difficult by the fact that Smiffy and I had to share the desk space and as a result the monitor angle was not very optimal. After that, the part with the laser deco was extremely inconsistent to play due to some of the clicks being very awkward, namely the second jump and the orbs following it. The second jump was designed to be a hold as far as I could tell, yet sometimes when holding the icon would not jump, and even when doing the click on its own without holding the icon sometimes refused to jump anyway. If you manage to pass that, the chain of orbs right after required buffering in very quick succession or else the dash orb would become misaligned and kill you. Everything after that declines in difficulty significantly, but the gameplay as a whole was very awkward and did not feel 100% consistent, so while fluking is very feasible its not something you can bank on.
To reiterate, those are only the issues I encountered on my part of the level. Smiffy's part was as I mentioned a low end hard demon, and aside from one or two things he said it played very well. The issue is that the balancing was so immensely skewed to my half that it got very very boring for him as it was essentially just him playing the same easy level for multiple hours whilst hoping I wouldn't die to the many balancing issues that I encountered. I would estimate that at most 5% of our attempts were a result of Smiffy dying and all of the others were me, a testament to just how boring it might have gotten for him. If you want to beat this level with someone, then make sure whoever does the hard demon side has a very strong mentality because I can only imagine their experience would not be ideal at all.
We beat this on Smiffy's account first, and that completion took multiple hours. We got relatively unlucky with a handful of second half deaths, so after that we took a break and played on my account to beat some 2p insane demons along with DICHOTOMY. Eventually, I was due to catch my train home but we had around an hour of time to kill so Smiffy suggested we might as well give this level a try again, and we luckily managed to knock it out in approximately 20 minutes after fluking from 38%.
Sorry for the lengthy description, I just really wanted to give out my thoughts on this one. With this being the 10th extreme demon I have beaten with a friend, I thought I was starting to get a very good feel for how the completion process of these levels go, but this one caught me off guard as it was very unlike all the others (one might even say It Is Not The Same XDDDDDDD). While Horros was the most unenjoyable of the 10, that was solely due to 2.2 bugs that have since been fixed after I beat it with Gecko and would likely be not too bad now. As a result, this is the first 2 player extreme I would actively recommend avoiding as the difficulty balancing is just straight up not fair at all for either player. One person has to essentially do all of the work while never being able to stay 100% consistent, and the other player has to mindlessly grind out an easy level just waiting for it to end. Really not an ideal situation for either person to be honest.
Song: Carrot Juice by Stratales
Attempts: 2,560 for completion 1, plus an additional 178 for completion 2
Worst Fail: 70% on completion 1, 38% on completion 2
Enjoyment: 3/10 for completion 1, 7/10 for completion 2
Extreme Demon #514
This was a really frustrating experience. This level is very poorly balanced in the sense that one player has to play a low end hard demon and the other player has to play a very inconsistent low end extreme demon. I did the extreme demon side, and it was extremely first half heavy and contained some very frustrating gameplay mechanics.
To summarise what my part played like, the ship at the start of the drop killed off a good portion of drop attempts, and then the mini UFO shortly after was structured very poorly due to the blocks above and below the gravity portals being much too difficult to avoid consistently. That was followed by a very chokable wave which was made much more difficult by the fact that Smiffy and I had to share the desk space and as a result the monitor angle was not very optimal. After that, the part with the laser deco was extremely inconsistent to play due to some of the clicks being very awkward, namely the second jump and the orbs following it. The second jump was designed to be a hold as far as I could tell, yet sometimes when holding the icon would not jump, and even when doing the click on its own without holding the icon sometimes refused to jump anyway. If you manage to pass that, the chain of orbs right after required buffering in very quick succession or else the dash orb would become misaligned and kill you. Everything after that declines in difficulty significantly, but the gameplay as a whole was very awkward and did not feel 100% consistent, so while fluking is very feasible its not something you can bank on.
To reiterate, those are only the issues I encountered on my part of the level. Smiffy's part was as I mentioned a low end hard demon, and aside from one or two things he said it played very well. The issue is that the balancing was so immensely skewed to my half that it got very very boring for him as it was essentially just him playing the same easy level for multiple hours whilst hoping I wouldn't die to the many balancing issues that I encountered. I would estimate that at most 5% of our attempts were a result of Smiffy dying and all of the others were me, a testament to just how boring it might have gotten for him. If you want to beat this level with someone, then make sure whoever does the hard demon side has a very strong mentality because I can only imagine their experience would not be ideal at all.
We beat this on Smiffy's account first, and that completion took multiple hours. We got relatively unlucky with a handful of second half deaths, so after that we took a break and played on my account to beat some 2p insane demons along with DICHOTOMY. Eventually, I was due to catch my train home but we had around an hour of time to kill so Smiffy suggested we might as well give this level a try again, and we luckily managed to knock it out in approximately 20 minutes after fluking from 38%.
Sorry for the lengthy description, I just really wanted to give out my thoughts on this one. With this being the 10th extreme demon I have beaten with a friend, I thought I was starting to get a very good feel for how the completion process of these levels go, but this one caught me off guard as it was very unlike all the others (one might even say It Is Not The Same XDDDDDDD). While Horros was the most unenjoyable of the 10, that was solely due to 2.2 bugs that have since been fixed after I beat it with Gecko and would likely be not too bad now. As a result, this is the first 2 player extreme I would actively recommend avoiding as the difficulty balancing is just straight up not fair at all for either player. One person has to essentially do all of the work while never being able to stay 100% consistent, and the other player has to mindlessly grind out an easy level just waiting for it to end. Really not an ideal situation for either person to be honest.
Song: Carrot Juice by Stratales
Attempts: 2,560 for completion 1, plus an additional 178 for completion 2
Worst Fail: 70% on completion 1, 38% on completion 2
Enjoyment: 3/10 for completion 1, 7/10 for completion 2
Extreme Demon #514
