Godless Engineer | Watch This Apologist STRUGGLE to Defend Jesus' Historicity! @godlessengineer | Uploaded September 2024 | Updated October 2024, 14 hours ago.
In this conversation, I discuss Jesus's historical existence with someone who believes in it but acknowledges the difficulty of proving anything definitively. The other participant asserts that while absolute proof is elusive, there are letters attributed to the apostles that support their belief. However, I challenge this by pointing out that Paul's epistles, often cited as evidence, fail to mention a historical Jesus directly. This opens a deeper debate about the reliability of sources and the need for evidence versus faith.
As the conversation continues, the topic shifts to comparisons between the evidence for Jesus and figures like Julius Caesar. The other speaker suggests that the same level of evidence exists for both, which I firmly refute. I emphasize the substantial documentation and correspondence we have for historical figures like Caesar, compared to the lack of direct evidence for Jesus. This sparks a broader discussion on how we should apply the historical method equally to all figures. I argue that the evidence for Jesus falls short compared to other prominent figures.
The conversation takes a moral turn when the participant tries to justify the actions commanded by God in the Old Testament, particularly the violent passages in *Numbers 31*. When I bring up the forced taking of young girls as spoils of war, they struggle to defend this as reasonable, and the discussion touches on the nature of God's morality. I point out the fallacy in claiming that God is beyond human morality, leading to a conversation about logical consistency in religious belief. Ultimately, while the discussion is cordial, it highlights the tension between faith-based belief and the demand for evidence.
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In this conversation, I discuss Jesus's historical existence with someone who believes in it but acknowledges the difficulty of proving anything definitively. The other participant asserts that while absolute proof is elusive, there are letters attributed to the apostles that support their belief. However, I challenge this by pointing out that Paul's epistles, often cited as evidence, fail to mention a historical Jesus directly. This opens a deeper debate about the reliability of sources and the need for evidence versus faith.
As the conversation continues, the topic shifts to comparisons between the evidence for Jesus and figures like Julius Caesar. The other speaker suggests that the same level of evidence exists for both, which I firmly refute. I emphasize the substantial documentation and correspondence we have for historical figures like Caesar, compared to the lack of direct evidence for Jesus. This sparks a broader discussion on how we should apply the historical method equally to all figures. I argue that the evidence for Jesus falls short compared to other prominent figures.
The conversation takes a moral turn when the participant tries to justify the actions commanded by God in the Old Testament, particularly the violent passages in *Numbers 31*. When I bring up the forced taking of young girls as spoils of war, they struggle to defend this as reasonable, and the discussion touches on the nature of God's morality. I point out the fallacy in claiming that God is beyond human morality, leading to a conversation about logical consistency in religious belief. Ultimately, while the discussion is cordial, it highlights the tension between faith-based belief and the demand for evidence.
Daily Bible Podcast: ge.hopp.to/DailyBiblePodcast
#atheism #christianity #atheist
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