Drew Weatherton
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![[TAS] Mario Kart 64 DKJP SC Flap 884, Alternate with Bowser](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/m0idFfCJNUQ/hqdefault.jpg "[TAS] Mario Kart 64 DKJP SC Flap 884, Alternate with Bowser
And I finally made it without tumbling. If it were possible to do that with one mushroom and without tumbling... who knows.")
![[TAS] Mario Kart 64 Sherbet Land 150cc GP 4792](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/mJLAESaGgVI/hqdefault.jpg "[TAS] Mario Kart 64 Sherbet Land 150cc GP 4792
I added a play-around section when I had to wait for Bowser on lap 2 and managed a slightly earlier jump off of DK (which necessitated a higher tumble at the finishline). Next up is Royal Raceway.")
![[TAS] Mario Kart 64 - RRy Hill Cut Continuum Illustration](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/n5EFDRmqLRA/hqdefault.jpg "[TAS] Mario Kart 64 - RRy Hill Cut Continuum Illustration
Theres been some debate over in the Mario Kart 64 community about whether to allow the new hill corner cutter (https://youtu.be/905pZqyCnjI) on Royal Raceway non-shortcut competition. Some people pointed to it being binary (you get it your you dont) others to one of the floor polygons being steep enough to be slippery (though still not a wall).
So, I took one approach (of many possible approaches) at the hill and with this nearly identical approach showed that this cut is not binary and both with and without bounces are effective, often equally so. In all three videos, Im turning left, jump right as I get to the grass and, based on the frame spacing and angle I enter the grass end up being about as fast with and without bounces.
Regarding whether bounces should be allowed at all; they already are. The Mario Raceway fast-lap fastest ending is done using a bounce (Dans current world record uses it https://youtu.be/p4tKQ9W3Xlk?t=28). Bounces have also been used in non-sc racing on the old double-shroom strategy on this very course and some have used it to clear the second large set of bumps on Wario Stadium. Theyre a built-in game mechanic that occur when you jump while encountering a sloped surface. I believe theyre the reason we sometimes see exceptionally large jumps over the new Frappe Snowland corner cutter (though, in that context the bounce is not desirable as its clearly slower there).
Regarding whether to allow driving on steep slippery floors. This is already done. You cant take the cave cut in DKJP without going over a steep, slippery floor and the very best cuts do so twice (and those even jump over a tumble polygon when done optimally). Slippery floors are also driven on when doing a transtyle on the beginning of Rainbow Road. These are simply normal floor polygons that have a Z normal lower than about 0.855. Nothing special, Moo Moo Farm has normal road polygons of this type on the sides as well.
Oh, also worth noting: on Jeff Gutierrezs 8/18/2004 Royal Raceway fastlap PR cut this very hill, going over the slippery polygon, getting a bounce and saving him time. The only difference is he used a mushroom and didnt hit R when he got the bounce (so he didnt clear the hill completely in his case): https://youtu.be/BW5E3cbozHg?t=42")
![[TAS] NEW Shortcut! Mario Kart 64 - Moo Moo Farm SC Flap 16.06 in 8K](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/nuyg3UFN6-c/hqdefault.jpg "[TAS] NEW Shortcut! Mario Kart 64 - Moo Moo Farm SC Flap 16.06 in 8K
The meme shortcut is finally real in time trials!
Details are explained in the video Bismuth, Forest and I collaborated on: https://youtu.be/-SuHSCkLD54")
