Uploaded April 2022 | Updated September 2026, 2 hours ago

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Listen to full episodes of Until You Make It on Apple Podcasts, Spotify and all the other cool places!

Abi Toads:
https://linktr.ee/AbiToads

More of the good stuff @
https://campsite.bio/heliumturtle

INSTAGRAM: @HeliumTurtle
FACEBOOK: @HeliumTurtleStudios

0:00 - Intro
1:57 - Abi's Art
7:32 - Growing a Fan Base
12:51 - Inspirations
15:50 - Pokemon
23:35 - Expanding the Mushling World
25:48 - Mushling Board Game?
31:42 - Writing Music
34:52 - Making Abi Cry
36:34 - Shenanigans
39:46 - Chris Talks Maldives
45:17 - Are We Killing The Planet?
50:00 - Game Time! (Lightning Round)

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