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Is America’s healthcare system truly the best—or the most broken? In this urgent and eye-opening discussion hosted by the Vail Symposium, former CDC Director Dr. Rochelle Walensky, pediatric oncologist and Harvard professor Dr. Lauren Walensky, and acclaimed historian Clay Jenkinson tackle the most controversial issues facing American medicine today.
From spiraling costs and rural care deserts to moral questions about access and equity, this conversation dives deep into why Americans are paying more and getting less. The panel doesn't just diagnose the problem—they explore real, research-driven solutions to one of the most complex and politically charged challenges of our time.
Are we ready to reimagine healthcare—or are we too divided to fix it? This isn't just policy. It's personal.
Dr. Rochelle Walensky
Former Director of the CDC (2021–2023), Dr. Walensky is a physician-scientist recognized for her work in HIV/AIDS and pandemic leadership. She holds degrees from Johns Hopkins and Harvard and serves on major global health foundations.
Dr. Lauren Walensky
Director of the Harvard-MIT MD/PhD Program and Principal Investigator at Dana-Farber, Dr. Walensky is a pediatric hematologist-oncologist whose work has earned national honors from the NIH and beyond.
Clay Jenkinson
National Humanities Medal winner and creator of Listening to America, Jenkinson brings a deep, historical lens to modern challenges like healthcare, governance, and rural equity.
This program breaks down the true cost of American exceptionalism in medicine—from life expectancy gaps across ZIP codes to skyrocketing drug prices, ER dependency, and structural shortages in rural care.
You'll learn:
Why prevention could save billions
The real reason your premiums keep rising
How geography determines life expectancy in the U.S.
What other countries do right (and wrong)
If universal healthcare is possible—and affordable—in America
0:00 Introduction & Opening Remarks
2:45 Meet the Panel: Walenskys & Jenkinson
6:30 Is the U.S. Healthcare System Broken?
12:50 The Rural Care Crisis
17:45 Prevention vs. Treatment Spending
23:15 Social Determinants of Health
30:10 Why Are Drug Prices So High?
36:05 The Shortage of Primary Care Doctors
43:00 Life Expectancy Gaps Across States
48:40 Can We Afford Universal Coverage?
54:15 What’s Blocking Reform? Politics & Lobbyists
1:01:00 What Can Local Communities Do?
1:07:20 The Moral Case for Reform
1:13:15 Medical Debt, Emergency Room Overuse
1:19:00 What Would It Take to Fix This?
1:24:45 The Role of Research & Innovation
1:29:30 Wrap-Up: Can America Heal Itself?
Is America’s healthcare system truly the best—or the most broken? In this urgent and eye-opening discussion hosted by the Vail Symposium, former CDC Director Dr. Rochelle Walensky, pediatric oncologist and Harvard professor Dr. Lauren Walensky, and acclaimed historian Clay Jenkinson tackle the most controversial issues facing American medicine today.
From spiraling costs and rural care deserts to moral questions about access and equity, this conversation dives deep into why Americans are paying more and getting less. The panel doesn't just diagnose the problem—they explore real, research-driven solutions to one of the most complex and politically charged challenges of our time.
Are we ready to reimagine healthcare—or are we too divided to fix it? This isn't just policy. It's personal.
Dr. Rochelle Walensky
Former Director of the CDC (2021–2023), Dr. Walensky is a physician-scientist recognized for her work in HIV/AIDS and pandemic leadership. She holds degrees from Johns Hopkins and Harvard and serves on major global health foundations.
Dr. Lauren Walensky
Director of the Harvard-MIT MD/PhD Program and Principal Investigator at Dana-Farber, Dr. Walensky is a pediatric hematologist-oncologist whose work has earned national honors from the NIH and beyond.
Clay Jenkinson
National Humanities Medal winner and creator of Listening to America, Jenkinson brings a deep, historical lens to modern challenges like healthcare, governance, and rural equity.
This program breaks down the true cost of American exceptionalism in medicine—from life expectancy gaps across ZIP codes to skyrocketing drug prices, ER dependency, and structural shortages in rural care.
You'll learn:
Why prevention could save billions
The real reason your premiums keep rising
How geography determines life expectancy in the U.S.
What other countries do right (and wrong)
If universal healthcare is possible—and affordable—in America
0:00 Introduction & Opening Remarks
2:45 Meet the Panel: Walenskys & Jenkinson
6:30 Is the U.S. Healthcare System Broken?
12:50 The Rural Care Crisis
17:45 Prevention vs. Treatment Spending
23:15 Social Determinants of Health
30:10 Why Are Drug Prices So High?
36:05 The Shortage of Primary Care Doctors
43:00 Life Expectancy Gaps Across States
48:40 Can We Afford Universal Coverage?
54:15 What’s Blocking Reform? Politics & Lobbyists
1:01:00 What Can Local Communities Do?
1:07:20 The Moral Case for Reform
1:13:15 Medical Debt, Emergency Room Overuse
1:19:00 What Would It Take to Fix This?
1:24:45 The Role of Research & Innovation
1:29:30 Wrap-Up: Can America Heal Itself?
