Uploaded November 2025 | Updated September 2026, 2 weeks ago
In the 80-year coverup of the UFO mystery, there have been a handful of pivotal moments where public interest in the topic gained enough momentum to threaten the iron-clad, intractable code of silence adopted by military authorities and intelligence agencies. The 1952 overflights of Washington DC, the insider revelations unveiled by Major Donald Keyhoe, the outrage emanating from Project Blue Book’s ridiculous “swamp gas” type explanations, and the 2017 New York Times report about secret UFO programs and the Tic Tac incident each inspired demands for truth and transparency. But in each of those and other episodes, public interest eventually waned, in part because of clever cover stories, media manipulation, and debunking efforts by civilian “experts” who willingly espoused the themes crafted by secret keepers within the CIA, US Air Force, and a handful of defense contractors.
Right now, as 2025 comes to a close, another opportunity has arrived. A blockbuster film, Age of Disclosure, has broken through the indifference that is common among major news platforms and has grabbed the attention of a broad audience, including members of Congress. At the same time, a dramatic interview with UAP whistleblower David Grusch was broadcast worldwide on the Fox News Network. A new book by Dr. James Lacatski, a career intelligence analyst for the DIA, has revealed the extent of AAWSAP, the acronym for the largest acknowledged UFO investigation ever financed by the US government. Because of these and other factors, at this moment, the UFO topic has grabbed public attention in a way not seen in years.
Is this a pivotal moment in the history of the UFO/UAP mystery? And if so, what are the factors that led to this and what might the proponents of disclosure do next to make sure the moment is not another missed opportunity?
In this episode, Jeremy and George are joined by three longtime researchers (and observers of UFO World) to get their input about the current state of public momentum for transparency, the impact of the new Age of Disclosure film, how the increased interest among the public and media might influence the Trump Administration to act, and what is likely to happen next. The panelists include Ryan Robbins (known for his insightful commentaries on his YouTube channel “Post Disclosure World”), Danny Silva, former editor of the Silva Record publication, and Joe Murgia, aka UFO Joe, who produces highly detailed reports and interview transcripts on his X account.
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In WEAPONIZED, Jeremy Corbell and George Knapp pull back the veil on the world of the known, to explore the unexplained. This multi-platform investigative series features exclusive interviews, never-before-seen footage, previously-suppressed documents, original audio and video recordings, and hard evidence related to UFOs, the paranormal, cutting-edge science, cover-ups, conspiracies, and big-time crimes. Original, groundbreaking conversations with government whistleblowers, spies, spooks, scientists, military officials, muckraking journalists, filmmakers, historians, artists, musicians, and major celebrities will cast a wide shadow through the other-world… and detail the human experiences that inform these extraordinary phenomena. Your curiosity will be WEAPONIZED.
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JEREMY CORBELL is an American contemporary artist and investigative filmmaker with movies on Netflix and Hulu. He is known for his documentary work exploring mysteries in the fields of UFOs, advanced technology and the “dark space” where science confronts the abnormal. Corbell’s films reveal how ideas, held by credible individuals, can alter the way we experience reality and help us to reconsider the fabric of our own beliefs.
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GEORGE KNAPP is an investigative journalist, whose work has been recognized with Edward R Murrow Awards, DuPont, Peabody Awards, and 28 Regional Emmy Awards. He is the chief investigative reporter for KLAS TV (CBS) and a regular host of the syndicated Coast to Coast AM radio show. His numerous exclusives include his reporting on the story of Bob Lazar, the public coverage of Area 51 and Skinwalker Ranch.
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In the 80-year coverup of the UFO mystery, there have been a handful of pivotal moments where public interest in the topic gained enough momentum to threaten the iron-clad, intractable code of silence adopted by military authorities and intelligence agencies. The 1952 overflights of Washington DC, the insider revelations unveiled by Major Donald Keyhoe, the outrage emanating from Project Blue Book’s ridiculous “swamp gas” type explanations, and the 2017 New York Times report about secret UFO programs and the Tic Tac incident each inspired demands for truth and transparency. But in each of those and other episodes, public interest eventually waned, in part because of clever cover stories, media manipulation, and debunking efforts by civilian “experts” who willingly espoused the themes crafted by secret keepers within the CIA, US Air Force, and a handful of defense contractors.
Right now, as 2025 comes to a close, another opportunity has arrived. A blockbuster film, Age of Disclosure, has broken through the indifference that is common among major news platforms and has grabbed the attention of a broad audience, including members of Congress. At the same time, a dramatic interview with UAP whistleblower David Grusch was broadcast worldwide on the Fox News Network. A new book by Dr. James Lacatski, a career intelligence analyst for the DIA, has revealed the extent of AAWSAP, the acronym for the largest acknowledged UFO investigation ever financed by the US government. Because of these and other factors, at this moment, the UFO topic has grabbed public attention in a way not seen in years.
Is this a pivotal moment in the history of the UFO/UAP mystery? And if so, what are the factors that led to this and what might the proponents of disclosure do next to make sure the moment is not another missed opportunity?
In this episode, Jeremy and George are joined by three longtime researchers (and observers of UFO World) to get their input about the current state of public momentum for transparency, the impact of the new Age of Disclosure film, how the increased interest among the public and media might influence the Trump Administration to act, and what is likely to happen next. The panelists include Ryan Robbins (known for his insightful commentaries on his YouTube channel “Post Disclosure World”), Danny Silva, former editor of the Silva Record publication, and Joe Murgia, aka UFO Joe, who produces highly detailed reports and interview transcripts on his X account.
Joe https://x.com/theUFOjoe
Ryan https://x.com/PostDisclosure
Danny https://x.com/SilvaRecord
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In WEAPONIZED, Jeremy Corbell and George Knapp pull back the veil on the world of the known, to explore the unexplained. This multi-platform investigative series features exclusive interviews, never-before-seen footage, previously-suppressed documents, original audio and video recordings, and hard evidence related to UFOs, the paranormal, cutting-edge science, cover-ups, conspiracies, and big-time crimes. Original, groundbreaking conversations with government whistleblowers, spies, spooks, scientists, military officials, muckraking journalists, filmmakers, historians, artists, musicians, and major celebrities will cast a wide shadow through the other-world… and detail the human experiences that inform these extraordinary phenomena. Your curiosity will be WEAPONIZED.
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JEREMY CORBELL is an American contemporary artist and investigative filmmaker with movies on Netflix and Hulu. He is known for his documentary work exploring mysteries in the fields of UFOs, advanced technology and the “dark space” where science confronts the abnormal. Corbell’s films reveal how ideas, held by credible individuals, can alter the way we experience reality and help us to reconsider the fabric of our own beliefs.
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GEORGE KNAPP is an investigative journalist, whose work has been recognized with Edward R Murrow Awards, DuPont, Peabody Awards, and 28 Regional Emmy Awards. He is the chief investigative reporter for KLAS TV (CBS) and a regular host of the syndicated Coast to Coast AM radio show. His numerous exclusives include his reporting on the story of Bob Lazar, the public coverage of Area 51 and Skinwalker Ranch.
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![Dr. James Lacatski - This Is Ufo Disclosure, As Far As It Can Go
A pair of brilliant intelligence analysts working for the DIA circa 2006-2007 came up with an idea to design the largest, most audacious, and most secretive UFO program ever funded by the US government. It was dubbed AAWSAP, and the public never knew it existed until 7 years after it ended. In its 27-month existence, it created the worlds largest UFO data warehouse, a stack of more than 100 thick, highly detailed reports filled with hard data about UFO cases and incidents, as well as rigorous, original investigations into connections between UFO incidents and paranormal phenomena. The two instigators of AAWSAP came to believe that paranormal events were not a subset of UFO cases, but rather, the opposite. UFOs were - and are - a small slice under a larger paranormal umbrella, according to nuclear engineer, rocket scientist, and DIA analyst Dr. James Lacatski, who was appointed director of AAWSAP and who continued to rely on his fellow innovator, Jay Stratton, who later became head of the UAP Task Force.
In this sometimes-tense conversation, Dr. Lacatski reveals that, as far as he knows, no one in government knows the full story about UFOs or where they originate, or what intelligence is behind them. Lacatski has just released Future Visions, his fourth book culled from the unreleased files of AAWSAP. He doubts that the actual files will ever be released, and that his books constitute the closest thing to full disclosure the public might ever get. Lacatski says there is no way another AAWSAP will ever be approved, but hints that a smaller, more focused effort related to the proposed Kona Blue program did carry on after AAWSAP ended. Like the previous books, Future Visions is jammed with startling incidents, hard data from UAP encounters, and inexplicable, bone-chilling encounters with bizarre phenomena at Skinwalker Ranch and other similar locations. The government doesnt know much more [than the general public], Dr. Lacatski declares. There are people that think they know more, but they dont. That this is wide open.
*Check out Dr. Lacatski’s new book, Inside the U.S. Government Covert UFO Program: Future Visions https://a.co/d/0dvJApZ3
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0:00 Cold Open: Close Contact With Non-Humans
0:25 This Is Weaponized
1:19 Trump: Im Going to Release the Files
1:37 The Largest UFO Investigation Ever Funded
2:39 Future Visions - The Fourth Book
4:03 Dr. Lacatski Has Done More for Disclosure
5:22 Dr. James Lacatski Joins Weaponized
6:11 All Degrees in Nuclear Engineering
7:31 Skinwalker Ranch Came Up
8:11 The Letter to Visit the Ranch
11:37 Youre Not Part of a UFO Cult
12:01 I Was a Complete Nuts and Bolts Person
15:18 Very Advanced Weapons System (Classified)
17:39 The Four Books: Equivalent of Disclosure
18:42 Everything on Kona Blue Was Correct
20:47 Building an Institutional Argument
22:37 Im Going to Write a Book
24:35 DIA Aware of Close Contact to Non-Humans
25:22 How Do You Read It?
26:21 You Know 5% of What You Need to Know
27:53 Does Anyone Know the Answers?
30:39 Are You Happy the Four Books Are Done?
33:38 Rep Burlison & Pax River Facility
36:30 Prehistoric Creatures That Shouldnt Exist
39:34 Department of Homeland Security Plates
42:01 Money Materializing Out of Thin Air
44:06 Electromagnetic Signals From the Mesa
45:35 Being Spied On
49:42 Levitation of a Human Being
52:52 AATIP: The Name Was Created
53:58 Material Transfer
56:37 We Were Looking for a List
57:23 It Had Disappeared
58:17 Deception From the Visitors Themselves
59:34 Tic Tac: First Case Investigated
1:01:25 Other Tic Tac-Like Objects
1:04:04 The Russian Files: Thread 3
1:07:22 Could Non-Human Intelligence Be AI?
1:08:54 Far Beyond Just Craft
1:12:08 Negotiation With Lockheed Martin
1:13:42 Will Something More Be Released?
1:15:55 Protected From Congress
1:16:22 I Know That People Have Lied
1:19:02 The Boat Has Sailed on Testimony
1:21:38 Youd Be Getting Incomplete Story
1:23:38 If Everything Revealed, Useless
1:24:42 Congress Led Down Wrong Path
1:27:50 Not Transfer of Recovered Technology
1:30:50 This Will Never Go Forward Again
1:36:30 Northern Tier: Persons All Gone
1:40:34 About Human Potential
1:45:34 Most Interesting Tidbits: Kona Blue
1:46:06 AAWSAP Converted to Kona Blue
1:48:14 Hes Dropping Breadcrumbs
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