Two Conservatives Debate: Is the Big, Beautiful Bill a Disaster? @OpentoDebate
Two Conservatives Debate: Is the Big, Beautiful Bill a Disaster?  @OpentoDebate
Uploaded July 2025 | Updated September 2026, 3 weeks ago
As President Trump signs the One Big, Beautiful Bill Act into law, not all conservatives are behind it.
This sweeping budget reconciliation package revives key elements of the 2017 Tax Cuts and Jobs Act, overhauls spending on Medicaid, green energy, and immigration, and raises the debt ceiling by $5 trillion. Supporters call it a bold push for economic growth and renewed American leadership, crediting it with preserving Trump-era tax cuts and encouraging investment.

But not everyone on the right is convinced.

In this episode, we’re not asking what Democrats think—we already know. Two conservatives. One controversial bill. Where do they align, and where do they draw the line?

With two House Republicans voting “no” and the Congressional Budget Office projecting a $2.8 trillion increase to the deficit over the next decade, some on the right are raising concerns about fiscal responsibility and long-term consequences.

So, is the Big, Beautiful Bill a strategic investment in America’s future—or a step too far for limited-government conservatives?

Arguing Yes: Jessica Riedl, Senior Fellow at the Manhattan Institute

Arguing No: Diana Furchtgott-Roth, Director of the Center for Energy, Climate, and Environment and the Herbert and Joyce Morgan Fellow in Energy and Environmental Policy at The Heritage Foundation

Emmy award-winning journalist John Donvan moderates

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Timestamps:
00:00:00 The Big Beautiful Bill
00:02:11 Jessica Riedl: The Bill Is a Disaster
00:06:20 Diana Furchtgott-Roth: The Bill is Not a Disaster
00:12:08 Should Republicans Prioritize Economic Growth or Tackle National Debt?
00:18:18 Unpacking the Bill: Is It "Clutter" or Essential Provisions?
00:24:02 Are Medicaid Cuts and Work Requirements Too Strict?
00:33:57 Scrutinizing the Legislative Process & CBO Scoring
00:41:08 Sahil Kapoor's Q: Will Future Majorities Continue to Avoid Paying for Priorities?
00:47:03 Taylor Gro's Q: Will the Bill's Divisive Nature Help or Hurt Republicans?
00:54:07 Immigration's Role: How Do Provisions Impact the Broader Debate?
00:57:41 Jessica’s Closing Statement
00:59:53 Diana’s Closing Statement
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