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trinities.org/blog/podcast-362-dr-andrew-hollingsworth-on-mere-social-trinitarianism-and-eternal-relations-of-origin-part-1 In this episode we’ll meet analytic theologian Dr. Andrew Hollingsworth and discuss his interesting forthcoming article “Mere Social Trinitarianism, the Eternal Relations of Origin, and Models of God” in the Journal of Analytic Theology. Topics include:
“mere” social trinitarianism – the core claims which any “social” trinitarian is committed to
the concept of a self
the idea that God has multiple first-person points of view
why “social” trinitarianism has been popular recently among Christian philosophers and analytic theologians
whether “social” trinitarianism is found in Christian history before the 20th century
what “classical” trinitarianism was, in contrast to “social” trinitarianism
in what sense a “Person” of the Trinity “is God” according to “social” trinitarians
the concept of constitution in Trinity theories and how this relates to worries about tritheism
Chad McIntosh’s 4-self Trinity theory
William Lane Craig’s suggestion that a “social” trinitarian should insist there are two ways to be divine – one for God the Trinity and one for the divine Persons & his cat-parts analogy
analytic theologian Keith Yandell’s social trinitarianism and tritheism objections
Craig’s analogy for the Trinity as a soul with three complete sets of cognitive faculties and his Cerberus analogy, and how this relates to real-life human conjoined twins
Dr. Jc Beall’s suggestion that the Incarnation and the Trinity should be understood as involving true (real) contradictions
the seeming incoherence of the “Athanasian” creed
the concept of God vs. models of God
the Doctrine of the Eternal Relations of Origin (DERO) – i.e. a traditional trinitarian doctrine of “processions”
the nature of these posited relations of origin – that they must be timeless and causal
whether the divine essence which the Father shares, via these origin relations, with the Son and Spirit is a universal property or a particular property
the medieval suggestion that the “Persons” of the Trinity are “subsistent relations”
one-self Trinity theories
In Part 2 we’ll discuss the costs of combining social trinitarianism and DERO.
Links for this episode @ trinities.org/blog/podcast-362-dr-andrew-hollingsworth-on-mere-social-trinitarianism-and-eternal-relations-of-origin-part-1
Dr. Andrew Hollingsworth @ Brewton-Parker College
Dr. Hollingsworth @ Academia.edu
Wolfhart Pannenberg (1928-2014)
Umberto Eco
Charles Sanders Pierce
What is “analytic” theology?
Dr. Hollingsworth’s review of Thomas H. McCall. Analytic Christology and the Theological Interpretation of the New Testament
Tuggy, “Divine Deception and Monotheism”
three self Trinity theories
John Philoponus on the Trinity
William Sherlock on the Trinity
Scott Williams, “Discovery of the Sixth Ecumenical Council’s Trinitarian Theology: Historical, Ecclesial, and Theological Implications”
podcast 28 – Interview with Dr. William Hasker about his Metaphysics and the Tripersonal God – Part 2
podcast 27 – Interview with Dr. William Hasker about his Metaphysics and the Tripersonal God – Part 1
podcast 300 – Does the New Testament teach Trinity Monotheism? – with Dale Glover – Part 2
podcast 299 – Does the New Testament teach Trinity Monotheism? – with Dale Glover – Part 1
podcast 297 – Assessing Craig’s “Trinity Monotheism” – with Dale Glover – Part 2
podcast 296 – Assessing Craig’s “Trinity Monotheism” – with Dale Glover – Part 1
the seven “ecumenical” councils
Dr. Ryan Mullins on “the Trinity”
Trinity as Incoherent
podcast 325 – Dr. Jc Beall – The Contradictory Christ – Part 2
podcast 324 – Dr. Jc Beall – The Contradictory Christ – Part 1
podcast 4 – Anglicans vs. “Athanasius”
podcast 2 – the “Athanasian Creed”
The Orthodox Formulas 2: The Council of Constantinople (381)
one-self Trinity theories
This week’s thinking music is “roboduck” by airtone.
Weekly podcast exploring views about the Trinity, and more generally about God and Jesus in Christian theology and philosophy. Debates, interviews, and historical and contemporary perspectives. Hosted by philosopher of religion / analytic theologian Dr. Dale Tuggy.
This week's thinking music is "roboduck" by airtone. dig.ccmixter.org/files/airtone/66098
trinities.org/blog/podcast-362-dr-andrew-hollingsworth-on-mere-social-trinitarianism-and-eternal-relations-of-origin-part-1 In this episode we’ll meet analytic theologian Dr. Andrew Hollingsworth and discuss his interesting forthcoming article “Mere Social Trinitarianism, the Eternal Relations of Origin, and Models of God” in the Journal of Analytic Theology. Topics include:
“mere” social trinitarianism – the core claims which any “social” trinitarian is committed to
the concept of a self
the idea that God has multiple first-person points of view
why “social” trinitarianism has been popular recently among Christian philosophers and analytic theologians
whether “social” trinitarianism is found in Christian history before the 20th century
what “classical” trinitarianism was, in contrast to “social” trinitarianism
in what sense a “Person” of the Trinity “is God” according to “social” trinitarians
the concept of constitution in Trinity theories and how this relates to worries about tritheism
Chad McIntosh’s 4-self Trinity theory
William Lane Craig’s suggestion that a “social” trinitarian should insist there are two ways to be divine – one for God the Trinity and one for the divine Persons & his cat-parts analogy
analytic theologian Keith Yandell’s social trinitarianism and tritheism objections
Craig’s analogy for the Trinity as a soul with three complete sets of cognitive faculties and his Cerberus analogy, and how this relates to real-life human conjoined twins
Dr. Jc Beall’s suggestion that the Incarnation and the Trinity should be understood as involving true (real) contradictions
the seeming incoherence of the “Athanasian” creed
the concept of God vs. models of God
the Doctrine of the Eternal Relations of Origin (DERO) – i.e. a traditional trinitarian doctrine of “processions”
the nature of these posited relations of origin – that they must be timeless and causal
whether the divine essence which the Father shares, via these origin relations, with the Son and Spirit is a universal property or a particular property
the medieval suggestion that the “Persons” of the Trinity are “subsistent relations”
one-self Trinity theories
In Part 2 we’ll discuss the costs of combining social trinitarianism and DERO.
Links for this episode @ trinities.org/blog/podcast-362-dr-andrew-hollingsworth-on-mere-social-trinitarianism-and-eternal-relations-of-origin-part-1
Dr. Andrew Hollingsworth @ Brewton-Parker College
Dr. Hollingsworth @ Academia.edu
Wolfhart Pannenberg (1928-2014)
Umberto Eco
Charles Sanders Pierce
What is “analytic” theology?
Dr. Hollingsworth’s review of Thomas H. McCall. Analytic Christology and the Theological Interpretation of the New Testament
Tuggy, “Divine Deception and Monotheism”
three self Trinity theories
John Philoponus on the Trinity
William Sherlock on the Trinity
Scott Williams, “Discovery of the Sixth Ecumenical Council’s Trinitarian Theology: Historical, Ecclesial, and Theological Implications”
podcast 28 – Interview with Dr. William Hasker about his Metaphysics and the Tripersonal God – Part 2
podcast 27 – Interview with Dr. William Hasker about his Metaphysics and the Tripersonal God – Part 1
podcast 300 – Does the New Testament teach Trinity Monotheism? – with Dale Glover – Part 2
podcast 299 – Does the New Testament teach Trinity Monotheism? – with Dale Glover – Part 1
podcast 297 – Assessing Craig’s “Trinity Monotheism” – with Dale Glover – Part 2
podcast 296 – Assessing Craig’s “Trinity Monotheism” – with Dale Glover – Part 1
the seven “ecumenical” councils
Dr. Ryan Mullins on “the Trinity”
Trinity as Incoherent
podcast 325 – Dr. Jc Beall – The Contradictory Christ – Part 2
podcast 324 – Dr. Jc Beall – The Contradictory Christ – Part 1
podcast 4 – Anglicans vs. “Athanasius”
podcast 2 – the “Athanasian Creed”
The Orthodox Formulas 2: The Council of Constantinople (381)
one-self Trinity theories
This week’s thinking music is “roboduck” by airtone.
Weekly podcast exploring views about the Trinity, and more generally about God and Jesus in Christian theology and philosophy. Debates, interviews, and historical and contemporary perspectives. Hosted by philosopher of religion / analytic theologian Dr. Dale Tuggy.
This week's thinking music is "roboduck" by airtone. dig.ccmixter.org/files/airtone/66098
