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trinities.org/blog/podcast-238-dialogue-with-a-catholic-listener In July I was honored to receive a long and detailed letter from a Catholic listener - one who was raised in a biblical unitarian denomination - Mr. Kirk Ross, an estate planning attorney and author. He confronts me on a number of issues and lodges several complaints.
He writes, in part,
You make a very big deal out of the fact that different philosophers interpret traditional Trinitarian creedal language differently, i.e. there are multiple "Trinity theories." ...I think you are trying to imply that they must all, therefore, be wrong.
And later,
Rhetorically, you refer to Biblical Unitarianism as if it were some sort of monolithic theological view (as opposed to the fractured views of the Trinity). That is quite wrong... Your type of Unitarianism (even if it was present in the first century, which I do not necessarily grant) is awfully hard to find among the church Fathers (if it is there at all).
And,
Quite bluntly, the doctrine of sola scriptura is logically inconsistent and cannot be right.
In this episode, I read his entire letter and respond section by section. I acknowledge some good points, correct some mistaken impressions, and in some cases argue back.
Links for this episode @trinities.org/blog/podcast-238-dialogue-with-a-catholic-listener
Kirk Ross Online
Journey Home - 2016-03-21 - Kirk Ross
Kent H. Ross
Seth Ross
Restitutio Interview 16: Church of God Vision (Seth Ross)
Church of God General Conference
Higher Ground Church
What is the Trinity?
"Trinity"
podcast 232 – Trinity Club Orientation
podcast 92 – Dr. Joshua Thurow on objections to atonement theories
podcast 91 – Dr. Joshua Thurow on theories of the atonement
10 steps towards getting less confused about the Trinity – #6 get a date – part 2
podcast 229 – Buzzard and Hurtado on God and Jesus – Part 2
podcast 228 – Buzzard and Hurtado on God and Jesus – Part 1
podcast 44 – The Spiritual Journey of Sir Anthony Buzzard
biblicalunitarian.com
The Lost Early History of Unitarian Christian Theology
podcast 11 – Tertullian the unitarian
How Trinity theories conflict with the New Testament
podcast 189 – The unfinished business of the Reformation
podcast 176 – Photinus of Sirmium
podcast 26 – Pastor Sean Finnegan on “the Holy Spirit” – Part 2
podcast 25 – Pastor Sean Finnegan on “the Holy Spirit” – Part 1
podcast 24 – How to be a Monotheistic Trinitarian
podcast 119 – The Son of God 3 – Dr. Dustin Smith’s “Socinian” view of Jesus
Clarifying Catholic Christologies
podcast 126 – What is an evangelical? With Kermit Zarley
podcast 125 – Dr. Robert M. Bowman’s “What about This View?”
podcast 124 – a challenge to “Jesus is God” apologists
podcast 85 – Heretic! Four Approaches to Dropping H-Bombs
George Blaurock
Restitutio 120 Biblical Unitarian Trailblazers of the 16th Century (Five Hundred 5)
podcast 235 – The Case Against Preexistence
Seventh Ecumenical Council
Eunuchs for the Kingdom of Heaven : Women, Sexuality, and The Catholic Church
Peter Kreeft
Scott Hahn
podcast 166 – Alvan Lamson’s On the Doctrine of Two Natures in Jesus Christ – Part 2
podcast 165 – Alvan Lamson’s On the Doctrine of Two Natures in Jesus Christ – Part 1
podcast 144 – Dr. Timothy Pawl’s In Defense of Conciliar Christology – Part 2
podcast 143 – Dr. Timothy Pawl’s In Defense of Conciliar Christology – Part 1
podcast 223 – Self-evident truths relevant to Trinity or Incarnation theories – Part 2
podcast 222 – Self-evident truths relevant to Trinity or Incarnation theories – Part 1
podcast 218 – Dr. Jerry Walls on Roman Catholic and Christian Foundational Claims
Richard Swinburne's brain division argument for dualism
Matthew 16:18; Matthew 28:20; John 16:13.
This week's thinking music is "Sanctuary of the Sky Gods" by Nathaniel Wyvern.
Weekly podcast exploring views about the Trinity, and more generally about God and Jesus in Christian theology and philosophy. Debates, interviews, and historical and contemporary perspectives. Hosted by philosopher of religion / analytic theologian Dr. Dale Tuggy.
This week's thinking music is "Sanctuary of the Sky Gods" by Nathaniel Wyvern. freemusicarchive.org/music/Nathaniel_Wyvern/Sanctuary_of_the__Sky_Gods/Nathaniel_Wyvern_-_Sanctuary_Of_The_Sky_Gods
trinities.org/blog/podcast-238-dialogue-with-a-catholic-listener In July I was honored to receive a long and detailed letter from a Catholic listener - one who was raised in a biblical unitarian denomination - Mr. Kirk Ross, an estate planning attorney and author. He confronts me on a number of issues and lodges several complaints.
He writes, in part,
You make a very big deal out of the fact that different philosophers interpret traditional Trinitarian creedal language differently, i.e. there are multiple "Trinity theories." ...I think you are trying to imply that they must all, therefore, be wrong.
And later,
Rhetorically, you refer to Biblical Unitarianism as if it were some sort of monolithic theological view (as opposed to the fractured views of the Trinity). That is quite wrong... Your type of Unitarianism (even if it was present in the first century, which I do not necessarily grant) is awfully hard to find among the church Fathers (if it is there at all).
And,
Quite bluntly, the doctrine of sola scriptura is logically inconsistent and cannot be right.
In this episode, I read his entire letter and respond section by section. I acknowledge some good points, correct some mistaken impressions, and in some cases argue back.
Links for this episode @trinities.org/blog/podcast-238-dialogue-with-a-catholic-listener
Kirk Ross Online
Journey Home - 2016-03-21 - Kirk Ross
Kent H. Ross
Seth Ross
Restitutio Interview 16: Church of God Vision (Seth Ross)
Church of God General Conference
Higher Ground Church
What is the Trinity?
"Trinity"
podcast 232 – Trinity Club Orientation
podcast 92 – Dr. Joshua Thurow on objections to atonement theories
podcast 91 – Dr. Joshua Thurow on theories of the atonement
10 steps towards getting less confused about the Trinity – #6 get a date – part 2
podcast 229 – Buzzard and Hurtado on God and Jesus – Part 2
podcast 228 – Buzzard and Hurtado on God and Jesus – Part 1
podcast 44 – The Spiritual Journey of Sir Anthony Buzzard
biblicalunitarian.com
The Lost Early History of Unitarian Christian Theology
podcast 11 – Tertullian the unitarian
How Trinity theories conflict with the New Testament
podcast 189 – The unfinished business of the Reformation
podcast 176 – Photinus of Sirmium
podcast 26 – Pastor Sean Finnegan on “the Holy Spirit” – Part 2
podcast 25 – Pastor Sean Finnegan on “the Holy Spirit” – Part 1
podcast 24 – How to be a Monotheistic Trinitarian
podcast 119 – The Son of God 3 – Dr. Dustin Smith’s “Socinian” view of Jesus
Clarifying Catholic Christologies
podcast 126 – What is an evangelical? With Kermit Zarley
podcast 125 – Dr. Robert M. Bowman’s “What about This View?”
podcast 124 – a challenge to “Jesus is God” apologists
podcast 85 – Heretic! Four Approaches to Dropping H-Bombs
George Blaurock
Restitutio 120 Biblical Unitarian Trailblazers of the 16th Century (Five Hundred 5)
podcast 235 – The Case Against Preexistence
Seventh Ecumenical Council
Eunuchs for the Kingdom of Heaven : Women, Sexuality, and The Catholic Church
Peter Kreeft
Scott Hahn
podcast 166 – Alvan Lamson’s On the Doctrine of Two Natures in Jesus Christ – Part 2
podcast 165 – Alvan Lamson’s On the Doctrine of Two Natures in Jesus Christ – Part 1
podcast 144 – Dr. Timothy Pawl’s In Defense of Conciliar Christology – Part 2
podcast 143 – Dr. Timothy Pawl’s In Defense of Conciliar Christology – Part 1
podcast 223 – Self-evident truths relevant to Trinity or Incarnation theories – Part 2
podcast 222 – Self-evident truths relevant to Trinity or Incarnation theories – Part 1
podcast 218 – Dr. Jerry Walls on Roman Catholic and Christian Foundational Claims
Richard Swinburne's brain division argument for dualism
Matthew 16:18; Matthew 28:20; John 16:13.
This week's thinking music is "Sanctuary of the Sky Gods" by Nathaniel Wyvern.
Weekly podcast exploring views about the Trinity, and more generally about God and Jesus in Christian theology and philosophy. Debates, interviews, and historical and contemporary perspectives. Hosted by philosopher of religion / analytic theologian Dr. Dale Tuggy.
This week's thinking music is "Sanctuary of the Sky Gods" by Nathaniel Wyvern. freemusicarchive.org/music/Nathaniel_Wyvern/Sanctuary_of_the__Sky_Gods/Nathaniel_Wyvern_-_Sanctuary_Of_The_Sky_Gods
