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Dr. Paul Conti is a Stanford and Harvard-trained psychiatrist and author of the new book “What's Going Right.” We discuss the three human drives, the structure of self, boundaries, and the simple goodness principle. READ MORE👉🏼bit.ly/richroll987
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00:00:00 Introduction
00:00:45 Symptoms vs. Root Causes in Mental Health
00:03:34 Stigma and Fear of Self-Inquiry
00:06:44 Avoidance and the Power of Compassionate Curiosity
00:09:42 Facing Discomfort and the Path to Solutions
00:13:17 Practical Steps for Self-Inquiry
00:16:45 The Power of Narrative and Negative Bias
00:17:52 Challenging Negative Narratives
00:20:36 Positive Affect vs. Delusion
00:23:36 Five-Part Structure of Self
00:26:53 Interplay of Thought and Behavior
00:30:03 Recursive Loops and Simplification
00:33:43 Sponsor Break
00:37:57 Moving Beyond Pathology: Flourishing Model
00:39:50 The Hidden Human Drive Psychology: Assertion and Pleasure
00:42:46 The Generative Drive: History and Neglect
00:45:18 Modern Life and Downregulation of Generative Drive
00:46:44 Self-Sabotage and Repetition
00:52:41 Setting Boundaries and Overcoming People-Pleasing
00:58:04 Practical Steps for Setting Boundaries
01:04:24 Practices for Self-Discovery
01:09:21 The Value of External Feedback
01:17:30 Self-Awareness as a Double-Edged Sword
01:20:21 Five-Part Function of Self
01:23:13 Making Abstract Concepts Practical
01:26:57 Presence, Mind-Body Connection, and Slowing Down
01:31:04 Fear of Stillness and Self-Reflection
01:32:52 Four Interconnected States of Being
01:36:56 Balancing the Drives
01:39:37 Humility and Gratitude Redefined
01:41:40 Practical Gratitude and Happiness
01:47:15 Role of Faith and Spirituality
01:50:30 Escaping the Hamster Wheel of Never Enough
01:52:36 Drives Out of Balance and Life Satisfaction
01:54:45 Current Trends: Rising Anxiety
01:57:05 Practical Tools for Navigating Division
01:59:43 Identity, Safety, and Defensive Reactions
02:04:05 Digital Technology and Social Fragmentation
02:07:02 Role and Limits of Therapy
02:11:06 Destigmatizing Mental Health
02:13:08 Performative Trauma and Identity
02:15:35 Looksmaxing and Outward Presentation
02:19:49 Encouragement for the Discouraged
02:25:20 Never Too Late for Change
02:27:03 Conclusion & Appreciation
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Dr. Paul Conti is a Stanford and Harvard-trained psychiatrist and author of the new book “What's Going Right.” We discuss the three human drives, the structure of self, boundaries, and the simple goodness principle. READ MORE👉🏼bit.ly/richroll987
✌🏼🌱 – Rich
This Episode Is Brought To You By…
Airbnb: Your home might be worth more than you think. Find out how much at👉🏼airbnb.com/host
Rivian: Electric vehicles that keep the world adventurous forever👉🏼rivian.com
Squarespace: Use code RichRoll to save 10% off👉🏼bit.ly/squarespace2025
LMNT: Try out LMNT's new Lemonade Iced Tea! Get a free 8-count Sample Pack of LMNT's most popular drink mix flavors with any purchase👉🏼bit.ly/drinklmnt2025
Go Brewing: Use code Rich Roll for 15% OFF👉🏼bit.ly/gobrewing2025
Check out all of the amazing discounts from our Sponsors👉🏼richroll.com/sponsors
00:00:00 Introduction
00:00:45 Symptoms vs. Root Causes in Mental Health
00:03:34 Stigma and Fear of Self-Inquiry
00:06:44 Avoidance and the Power of Compassionate Curiosity
00:09:42 Facing Discomfort and the Path to Solutions
00:13:17 Practical Steps for Self-Inquiry
00:16:45 The Power of Narrative and Negative Bias
00:17:52 Challenging Negative Narratives
00:20:36 Positive Affect vs. Delusion
00:23:36 Five-Part Structure of Self
00:26:53 Interplay of Thought and Behavior
00:30:03 Recursive Loops and Simplification
00:33:43 Sponsor Break
00:37:57 Moving Beyond Pathology: Flourishing Model
00:39:50 The Hidden Human Drive Psychology: Assertion and Pleasure
00:42:46 The Generative Drive: History and Neglect
00:45:18 Modern Life and Downregulation of Generative Drive
00:46:44 Self-Sabotage and Repetition
00:52:41 Setting Boundaries and Overcoming People-Pleasing
00:58:04 Practical Steps for Setting Boundaries
01:04:24 Practices for Self-Discovery
01:09:21 The Value of External Feedback
01:17:30 Self-Awareness as a Double-Edged Sword
01:20:21 Five-Part Function of Self
01:23:13 Making Abstract Concepts Practical
01:26:57 Presence, Mind-Body Connection, and Slowing Down
01:31:04 Fear of Stillness and Self-Reflection
01:32:52 Four Interconnected States of Being
01:36:56 Balancing the Drives
01:39:37 Humility and Gratitude Redefined
01:41:40 Practical Gratitude and Happiness
01:47:15 Role of Faith and Spirituality
01:50:30 Escaping the Hamster Wheel of Never Enough
01:52:36 Drives Out of Balance and Life Satisfaction
01:54:45 Current Trends: Rising Anxiety
01:57:05 Practical Tools for Navigating Division
01:59:43 Identity, Safety, and Defensive Reactions
02:04:05 Digital Technology and Social Fragmentation
02:07:02 Role and Limits of Therapy
02:11:06 Destigmatizing Mental Health
02:13:08 Performative Trauma and Identity
02:15:35 Looksmaxing and Outward Presentation
02:19:49 Encouragement for the Discouraged
02:25:20 Never Too Late for Change
02:27:03 Conclusion & Appreciation
LISTEN / SUBSCRIBE TO THE PODCAST
Apple Podcasts: bit.ly/rrpitunes
Spotify: bit.ly/rrpspotify
Google: bit.ly/rrpgooglepods
Meal Planner: meals.richroll.com
Voicing Change Book: richroll.com/vc
Clips Channel: youtube.com/c/RichRollPodcastClips
Newsletter: bit.ly/rollcallemail
CONNECT WITH RICH
✩ Website - http://richroll.com
✩ Rich Roll Podcast - richroll.com/all-episodes
✩ Instagram - instagram.com/richroll
✩ Twitter - twitter.com/richroll
✩ Facebook - facebook.com/richrollfans
✩ Strava - strava.com/athletes/14443?oq=rich
✩ Memoir: Finding Ultra - richroll.com/shop/books/finding-ultra
✩ Meals - http://meals.richroll.com
✩ Cook - The Plantpower Way - richroll.com/shop/books/the-plantpower-way-signed
✩ Italian! - The Plantpower Way: Italia - richroll.com/shop/books/the-plantpower-way-italia-signed
✩ Support - patreon.com/richroll
Thanks To The Team: Jason Camiolo, Dan Drake, Morgan McRae, Blake Curtis, Desmond Loh
* * * * *
NEW TO RICH?
Hi I'm Rich Roll. I'm a vegan ultra-endurance athlete, author, podcaster, public speaker & wellness evangelist. But mainly I'm a dad of four. If you want to know more, visit my website or check out these two the NY Times articles:
bit.ly/otillonyt
bit.ly/vegansglam
I LOVE MAIL! SEND IT HERE:
2630 Conejo Spectrum St.
Thousand Oaks, CA 91320
#richroll #richrollpodcast
