Mormon Stories Podcast | Top Mormon Apologist Admits CES Letter is Right About Joseph Smith Polygamy - Brian Hales | Ep. 1950 @mormonstories | Uploaded October 2024 | Updated October 2024, 11 hours ago.
Join us as we dive into a thought-provoking discussion with Sandra Tanner about Brian Hales' recent video addressing the challenges raised in the CES Letter regarding polygamy. Hales controversially claims that Joseph Smith did not engage in sexual relations with his polyandrous wives (his wives who were already married). We'll explore key topics, including biblical support for polygamy, Emma Smith seeking divorce due to polygamy, the possibility of Joseph sending men on missions to marry their wives, and individuals trying to deny that Joseph ever lived polygamy. Don't miss this insightful conversation on the complexities of polygamy and its historical context!
The full interview with Brian Hales on the CES Letters can be found here: youtube.com/watch?v=EUkwJX3NcSY&t=1273s
To access the CES Letter by Jeremy Runnells click here: cesletter.org
Show Notes: mormonstories.org/brian-hales-admits-ces-letter-is-right-polygamy
00:00:00 Introducing the CES Letter
00:08:12 Introducing Zeke
00:16:00 Clip - Brian Hales is the authority when it comes to polygamy
00:21:50 Clip - Background on Brian Hales
00:23:50 Polyandry in the Mormon church
00:34:15 Fanny Alger
00:43:00 Background of authority and keys
00:49:30 God sending an angel to command him to live polygamy
00:51:06 Clip - Brian Hales talking about Fanny Alger
01:01:08 What Brian Hales is agreeing to with the CES Letter
01:03:00 What happened to Oliver Cowdery
01:04:20 Clip - Fanny overview part two
01:11:55 The Law of Sarah
01:18:16 Clip - sealing keys being restored
01:27:35 Clip - How many wives did Joseph Smith have?
01:34:30 When polygamy becomes world news
01:41:14 Clip - Was Joseph dragging his feet?
01:45:19 Zina Huntington
01:51:53 Sending men on missions
01:55:03 Clip - Eternity only marriages
01:59:26 Ruth Vose Sayer
02:02:23 Simultaneous vs consecutive wives
02:03:45 Comment from Brian Hales on Dan Vogel’s video
02:10:00 Car family history
02:17:55 Clip - Nobody complained about polyandry
02:24:40 Clip - It’s in the Bible
02:30:41 Clip - No reports of polyandry
02:39:31 Clip - Polyandry didn’t happen
02:44:33 Clip - Stop accusing Joseph Smith of polyandry
02:49:55 Did Joseph Smith sleep with Helen Mar Kimball (14 years old)
02:55:54 Clip - Warren Jeffs vs Joseph Smith
03:09:10 Did Joseph coerce these women?
03:07:50 Clip - Emma accepting polygamy
03:16:09 Clip - Emma rejecting polygamy
03:18:36 The long process of breaking down Emma into acceptance
03:24:40 Joseph used coercion in D&C 132
03:28:13 Clip - Does the Church practice polygamy?
03:31:55 Don’t worry if there is [insert problem] in heaven
03:39:55 Clip - Joseph wasn’t smart enough to write the Book of Mormon
03:44:19 Sandra Tanner on how good the Book of Mormon really is
03:47:45 Final words
03:50:55 Hard on systems and not on people
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Join us as we dive into a thought-provoking discussion with Sandra Tanner about Brian Hales' recent video addressing the challenges raised in the CES Letter regarding polygamy. Hales controversially claims that Joseph Smith did not engage in sexual relations with his polyandrous wives (his wives who were already married). We'll explore key topics, including biblical support for polygamy, Emma Smith seeking divorce due to polygamy, the possibility of Joseph sending men on missions to marry their wives, and individuals trying to deny that Joseph ever lived polygamy. Don't miss this insightful conversation on the complexities of polygamy and its historical context!
The full interview with Brian Hales on the CES Letters can be found here: youtube.com/watch?v=EUkwJX3NcSY&t=1273s
To access the CES Letter by Jeremy Runnells click here: cesletter.org
Show Notes: mormonstories.org/brian-hales-admits-ces-letter-is-right-polygamy
00:00:00 Introducing the CES Letter
00:08:12 Introducing Zeke
00:16:00 Clip - Brian Hales is the authority when it comes to polygamy
00:21:50 Clip - Background on Brian Hales
00:23:50 Polyandry in the Mormon church
00:34:15 Fanny Alger
00:43:00 Background of authority and keys
00:49:30 God sending an angel to command him to live polygamy
00:51:06 Clip - Brian Hales talking about Fanny Alger
01:01:08 What Brian Hales is agreeing to with the CES Letter
01:03:00 What happened to Oliver Cowdery
01:04:20 Clip - Fanny overview part two
01:11:55 The Law of Sarah
01:18:16 Clip - sealing keys being restored
01:27:35 Clip - How many wives did Joseph Smith have?
01:34:30 When polygamy becomes world news
01:41:14 Clip - Was Joseph dragging his feet?
01:45:19 Zina Huntington
01:51:53 Sending men on missions
01:55:03 Clip - Eternity only marriages
01:59:26 Ruth Vose Sayer
02:02:23 Simultaneous vs consecutive wives
02:03:45 Comment from Brian Hales on Dan Vogel’s video
02:10:00 Car family history
02:17:55 Clip - Nobody complained about polyandry
02:24:40 Clip - It’s in the Bible
02:30:41 Clip - No reports of polyandry
02:39:31 Clip - Polyandry didn’t happen
02:44:33 Clip - Stop accusing Joseph Smith of polyandry
02:49:55 Did Joseph Smith sleep with Helen Mar Kimball (14 years old)
02:55:54 Clip - Warren Jeffs vs Joseph Smith
03:09:10 Did Joseph coerce these women?
03:07:50 Clip - Emma accepting polygamy
03:16:09 Clip - Emma rejecting polygamy
03:18:36 The long process of breaking down Emma into acceptance
03:24:40 Joseph used coercion in D&C 132
03:28:13 Clip - Does the Church practice polygamy?
03:31:55 Don’t worry if there is [insert problem] in heaven
03:39:55 Clip - Joseph wasn’t smart enough to write the Book of Mormon
03:44:19 Sandra Tanner on how good the Book of Mormon really is
03:47:45 Final words
03:50:55 Hard on systems and not on people
___________________
At Mormon Stories we explore, celebrate, and challenge Mormon culture through in-depth stories told by members and former members of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints as well as scholars, authors, LDS apologists, and other professionals.
Our overall mission is to:
1. Facilitate informed consent amongst LDS Church members, investigators, and non-members regarding Mormon history, doctrine, and theology
2. Support Mormons (and members of other high-demand religions) who are experiencing a religious faith crisis
3. Promote healing, growth and community for those who choose to leave the LDS Church or other high demand religions
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