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What happens when you sit down with someone you’ve been told you’ll never understand?
Liberal actor and activist Tony Goldwyn and conservative nonprofit leader and father Ben Sauceda couldn’t come from more different political worlds.
But, in their One Small Step conversation, they demonstrate something many of us are craving right now: how to stay open, stay curious, and make space for shared humanity, even when you disagree.
In a time when it feels easier to retreat into our corners, this conversation shows us what’s possible when we step outside of them.
Know someone who believes in bridging divides through conversation? This is the one to send their way.
Then ask yourself: who might surprise you if you gave them a chance to speak?
Follow @takeonesmallstep to stay inspired and hopeful.
#OneSmallStep #TonyGoldwyn #ConversationsThatMatter #HumanFirst #ListenToUnderstand #StoryCorps
Listen to more of their conversation: youtu.be/zzUhyZRJO-Y
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Learn more about One Small Step: takeonesmallstep.org
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What happens when you sit down with someone you’ve been told you’ll never understand?
Liberal actor and activist Tony Goldwyn and conservative nonprofit leader and father Ben Sauceda couldn’t come from more different political worlds.
But, in their One Small Step conversation, they demonstrate something many of us are craving right now: how to stay open, stay curious, and make space for shared humanity, even when you disagree.
In a time when it feels easier to retreat into our corners, this conversation shows us what’s possible when we step outside of them.
Know someone who believes in bridging divides through conversation? This is the one to send their way.
Then ask yourself: who might surprise you if you gave them a chance to speak?
Follow @takeonesmallstep to stay inspired and hopeful.
#OneSmallStep #TonyGoldwyn #ConversationsThatMatter #HumanFirst #ListenToUnderstand #StoryCorps
Listen to more of their conversation: youtu.be/zzUhyZRJO-Y




![Heart to Heart
In 1972, Sarah Churchill was pregnant with her third daughter, Yomi Young. Shortly after giving birth, doctors told Sarah that her baby had a rare genetic disorder that caused her bones to break under the slightest pressure, and that she had a choice — she could try to raise a child who might not survive or leave her at the hospital. In 2017, as Yomi was about to celebrate her 45th birthday, she visited the @StoryCorps recording booth to thank her mom for never giving up on her.
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Directed by
Richard O’Connor
Executive Producers
Michael Garofalo
Rachel Hartman
Dave Isay
Producer
Savannah Winchester
Senior Audio Producer
Michael Garofalo
Audio Produced by
Jud Esty-Kendall
Supervising Sound Recordist
Yosmay Del Mazo
Audio Mixed By
Jarrett Floyd
Animation by
Ace & Son Moving Picture Co., LLC
Design
Taisiya Zaretskaya
Animators
Taisiya Zaretskaya
Natalie Greene
Art Production
Ruyin Tsai
Original Music
Joshua Abrams
Music Performed by
Joshua Abrams
Hamid Drake
Marquis Hill
Emmett Kelly
Adam Thornburg
Music Mixed by
Joshua Abrams
Neil Strauch
Outro Music by
“Home Home at Last” by Blue Dot Sessions
From the Album Warmbody
Published by Blue Dot Sessions
Special Thanks
Sarah Churchill
Yomi Young
In Partnership with
American Folklife Center at the Library of Congress
NPR
POV
Funding Provided by
Corporation for Public Broadcasting [logo]
A private corporation funded by the American people.
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