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You didn't see that coming, at least not now, but Tim Cook's successor is John Ternus and there's so much news about both men. Plus what Apple had to update because of the FBI, how "Star Wars" benefits from the Apple Vision Pro, and more, on the AppleInsider Podcast.
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Links from the Show:
• John Ternus in as Apple CEO, Cook becoming Apple Executive Chairman (appleinsider.com/articles/26/04/20/john-ternus-in-as-apple-ceo-cook-becoming-apple-executive-chairman)
• Apple leadership shakeup places Johny Srouji as new hardware chief (appleinsider.com/articles/26/04/20/apple-leadership-shakeup-places-johny-srouji-as-new-hardware-chief)
• Tim Cook thanks users & Apple employees after 15 years of being CEO (appleinsider.com/articles/26/04/20/tim-cook-thanks-users-apple-employees-after-15-years-of-being-ceo)
• How Tim Cook started at Apple in 1998, and how 15 years of being the CEO ends (appleinsider.com/articles/26/04/20/how-tim-cook-started-at-apple-in-1998-and-how-15-years-of-being-the-ceo-ends)
• Don't expect changes from Apple anytime soon, even with new leadership (appleinsider.com/articles/26/04/20/dont-expect-changes-from-apple-anytime-soon-even-with-new-leadership)
• New Apple hardware chief wastes little time in introducing five underlings (appleinsider.com/articles/26/04/21/new-apple-hardware-chief-wastes-little-time-in-introducing-five-underlings)
• Ternus will be more decisive than Tim Cook, claims one insider (appleinsider.com/articles/26/04/21/ternus-will-be-more-decisive-than-tim-cook-claims-one-insider)
• A long-planned Apple CEO transition meets an analyst-driven AI hype cycle (appleinsider.com/articles/26/04/21/a-long-planned-apple-ceo-transition-meets-an-analyst-driven-ai-hype-cycle)
• 'Healthy' Cook plans for a long stay at Apple as chairman (appleinsider.com/articles/26/04/21/healthy-cook-plans-for-a-long-stay-at-apple-as-chairman)
• Report: New Apple CEO's biggest challenge will be retiring leadership & regular churn (appleinsider.com/articles/26/04/22/report-new-apple-ceos-biggest-challenge-will-be-retiring-leadership-regular-churn)
• When he was hired, Ternus wasn't sure he even belonged at Apple (appleinsider.com/articles/26/04/22/when-he-was-hired-ternus-wasnt-sure-he-even-belonged-at-apple)
• Let John Ternus be John Ternus, and not Cook or Jobs (appleinsider.com/articles/26/04/22/let-john-ternus-be-john-ternus-and-not-cook-or-jobs)
• Notification bug that let FBI access messages patched with iOS 26.4.2 (appleinsider.com/articles/26/04/22/notification-bug-that-let-fbi-access-messages-patched-with-ios-2642)
• High-resolution 200MP camera now expected in 2028 iPhone (appleinsider.com/articles/26/04/21/high-resolution-200mp-camera-now-expected-in-2028-iphone)
• Latest 'Star Wars' movie cut unnecessary costs by using Apple Vision Pro (appleinsider.com/articles/26/04/21/latest-star-wars-movie-cut-unnecessary-costs-by-using-apple-vision-pro)
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You didn't see that coming, at least not now, but Tim Cook's successor is John Ternus and there's so much news about both men. Plus what Apple had to update because of the FBI, how "Star Wars" benefits from the Apple Vision Pro, and more, on the AppleInsider Podcast.
Contact your hosts:
• @williamgallagher_ on Threads (threads.net/@williamgallagher_)
• @WGallagher on Twitter (twitter.com/wgallagher)
• William's 58keys on YouTube (youtube.com/WilliamGallagher)
• William Gallagher on email (mailto:william@appleinsider.com)
• Wes on Bluesky (https://bsky.app/profile/hilli.tech)
• Wes Hilliard on emai (mailto:wes@appleinsider.com) l
• Wes's blog Hillitech (https://www.hilli.tech/)
Sponsored by:
• MasterClass: Get 15% off annual memberships at MasterClass.com (masterclass.com/APPLEINSIDER15)
• Claude by Anthropic: Check out Claude and Claude Pro at Claude.ai/appleinsider (claude.ai/appleinsider)
Links from the Show:
• John Ternus in as Apple CEO, Cook becoming Apple Executive Chairman (appleinsider.com/articles/26/04/20/john-ternus-in-as-apple-ceo-cook-becoming-apple-executive-chairman)
• Apple leadership shakeup places Johny Srouji as new hardware chief (appleinsider.com/articles/26/04/20/apple-leadership-shakeup-places-johny-srouji-as-new-hardware-chief)
• Tim Cook thanks users & Apple employees after 15 years of being CEO (appleinsider.com/articles/26/04/20/tim-cook-thanks-users-apple-employees-after-15-years-of-being-ceo)
• How Tim Cook started at Apple in 1998, and how 15 years of being the CEO ends (appleinsider.com/articles/26/04/20/how-tim-cook-started-at-apple-in-1998-and-how-15-years-of-being-the-ceo-ends)
• Don't expect changes from Apple anytime soon, even with new leadership (appleinsider.com/articles/26/04/20/dont-expect-changes-from-apple-anytime-soon-even-with-new-leadership)
• New Apple hardware chief wastes little time in introducing five underlings (appleinsider.com/articles/26/04/21/new-apple-hardware-chief-wastes-little-time-in-introducing-five-underlings)
• Ternus will be more decisive than Tim Cook, claims one insider (appleinsider.com/articles/26/04/21/ternus-will-be-more-decisive-than-tim-cook-claims-one-insider)
• A long-planned Apple CEO transition meets an analyst-driven AI hype cycle (appleinsider.com/articles/26/04/21/a-long-planned-apple-ceo-transition-meets-an-analyst-driven-ai-hype-cycle)
• 'Healthy' Cook plans for a long stay at Apple as chairman (appleinsider.com/articles/26/04/21/healthy-cook-plans-for-a-long-stay-at-apple-as-chairman)
• Report: New Apple CEO's biggest challenge will be retiring leadership & regular churn (appleinsider.com/articles/26/04/22/report-new-apple-ceos-biggest-challenge-will-be-retiring-leadership-regular-churn)
• When he was hired, Ternus wasn't sure he even belonged at Apple (appleinsider.com/articles/26/04/22/when-he-was-hired-ternus-wasnt-sure-he-even-belonged-at-apple)
• Let John Ternus be John Ternus, and not Cook or Jobs (appleinsider.com/articles/26/04/22/let-john-ternus-be-john-ternus-and-not-cook-or-jobs)
• Notification bug that let FBI access messages patched with iOS 26.4.2 (appleinsider.com/articles/26/04/22/notification-bug-that-let-fbi-access-messages-patched-with-ios-2642)
• High-resolution 200MP camera now expected in 2028 iPhone (appleinsider.com/articles/26/04/21/high-resolution-200mp-camera-now-expected-in-2028-iphone)
• Latest 'Star Wars' movie cut unnecessary costs by using Apple Vision Pro (appleinsider.com/articles/26/04/21/latest-star-wars-movie-cut-unnecessary-costs-by-using-apple-vision-pro)
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Subscribe and listen to our AppleInsider Daily podcast (podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/appleinsider-daily/id1532419028) for the latest Apple news Monday through Friday. You can find it on Apple Podcasts (podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/appleinsider-daily/id1532419028) , Ov...
