Uploaded September 2025 | Updated September 2026, 2 weeks ago
In this groundbreaking interview, retired U.S. Air Force test pilot Dan Isbell breaks 45 years of silence on his close-range UAP encounters, including a pivotal 1980 sighting at Upper Heyford that aligns with the Rendlesham Forest incident—often called England's Roswell. With a career spanning over 70 aircraft types, from F-111s carrying nuclear payloads to U-2s at the edge of space, Isbell offers a credible, engineering-grounded perspective on anomalous craft that defy known physics.
Major themes explored include:
Isbell's first UAP sighting—a silent, triangular craft with plasma-like lights hovering instantaneously, observed near nuclear storage sites.
Subsequent encounters involving directed beams, expanding plasma orbs, and tracking phenomena, raising questions about non-human intelligence.
Deeper implications for fringe science, including plasma cosmology, zero-point energy, and challenges to mainstream physics like Big Bang theory and gravity-centric models.
Connections to remote viewing, reverse engineering, black projects, and consciousness, blending high-level aviation stories with revelatory insights.
00:00 Intro
03:26 Aviation Career Beginnings
10:34 F-111 Missions & Terrain Following Radar
19:15 F-16 Blocks & Functional Check Flights
30:26 U-2 Challenges & High-Altitude Flights
41:27 Directed Energy Weapons & Pentagon Roles
57:54 Upper Heyford & Alert Duties
64:58 The 1980 Upper Heyford UAP Sighting
76:21 Rendlesham Forest Connection
87:25 Subsequent UAP Encounters
97:39 Plasma Cosmology & Fringe Science
112:49 Tracking, Disclosure & Final Thoughts
Watch Professor Simon's Dan Isbell take here:
youtube.com/watch?v=VywcEX4dfpk
Chris Lehto is a former F-16 pilot with 18 years of experience in the Air Force. He managed multi-million dollar simulator contracts, was an Electronic Attack SME for the Aggressors (OPFOR), and commanded the US Detachment at TLP for NATO Fighter Pilot Training. Chris fought in Iraq for 5 months in 2006. He spent 3 years in Turkey as an exchange pilot and is fluent in Turkish. Chris is also a certified crash safety investigator, having investigated Air Force accidents for four years. Lehto has a Bachelor of Science in Chemistry-Materials Science from the Air Force Academy and a Master's in Aeronautical Science from Embry-Riddle University. He was stationed in various locations worldwide, including South Korea, Italy, Alaska, Turkey, and Spain.
Lehto's YouTube channel, "Lehto Files," focuses on Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) research, future tech insights, and sharing knowledge. His approach is scientific and aims to illuminate these phenomena and provide informative content. He also shares his expertise on aviation safety and accident analysis. Lehto believes in the power of open dialogue and the importance of a censor-free internet.
Lehto covers a range of topics, including:
• Analysis of aviation accidents, such as the collision near Ronald Reagan Washington National Airport.
• Identification of drones, drawing on his Air Force security forces experience.
• Insights into Alternate Physics - promoting his Fractal Holographic Universe Theory
• Discussions of UAPs and related topics.
• Insights into space exploration, including his experience at the launch of SpaceX's Starship SN25.
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In this groundbreaking interview, retired U.S. Air Force test pilot Dan Isbell breaks 45 years of silence on his close-range UAP encounters, including a pivotal 1980 sighting at Upper Heyford that aligns with the Rendlesham Forest incident—often called England's Roswell. With a career spanning over 70 aircraft types, from F-111s carrying nuclear payloads to U-2s at the edge of space, Isbell offers a credible, engineering-grounded perspective on anomalous craft that defy known physics.
Major themes explored include:
Isbell's first UAP sighting—a silent, triangular craft with plasma-like lights hovering instantaneously, observed near nuclear storage sites.
Subsequent encounters involving directed beams, expanding plasma orbs, and tracking phenomena, raising questions about non-human intelligence.
Deeper implications for fringe science, including plasma cosmology, zero-point energy, and challenges to mainstream physics like Big Bang theory and gravity-centric models.
Connections to remote viewing, reverse engineering, black projects, and consciousness, blending high-level aviation stories with revelatory insights.
00:00 Intro
03:26 Aviation Career Beginnings
10:34 F-111 Missions & Terrain Following Radar
19:15 F-16 Blocks & Functional Check Flights
30:26 U-2 Challenges & High-Altitude Flights
41:27 Directed Energy Weapons & Pentagon Roles
57:54 Upper Heyford & Alert Duties
64:58 The 1980 Upper Heyford UAP Sighting
76:21 Rendlesham Forest Connection
87:25 Subsequent UAP Encounters
97:39 Plasma Cosmology & Fringe Science
112:49 Tracking, Disclosure & Final Thoughts
Watch Professor Simon's Dan Isbell take here:
youtube.com/watch?v=VywcEX4dfpk
Chris Lehto is a former F-16 pilot with 18 years of experience in the Air Force. He managed multi-million dollar simulator contracts, was an Electronic Attack SME for the Aggressors (OPFOR), and commanded the US Detachment at TLP for NATO Fighter Pilot Training. Chris fought in Iraq for 5 months in 2006. He spent 3 years in Turkey as an exchange pilot and is fluent in Turkish. Chris is also a certified crash safety investigator, having investigated Air Force accidents for four years. Lehto has a Bachelor of Science in Chemistry-Materials Science from the Air Force Academy and a Master's in Aeronautical Science from Embry-Riddle University. He was stationed in various locations worldwide, including South Korea, Italy, Alaska, Turkey, and Spain.
Lehto's YouTube channel, "Lehto Files," focuses on Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) research, future tech insights, and sharing knowledge. His approach is scientific and aims to illuminate these phenomena and provide informative content. He also shares his expertise on aviation safety and accident analysis. Lehto believes in the power of open dialogue and the importance of a censor-free internet.
Lehto covers a range of topics, including:
• Analysis of aviation accidents, such as the collision near Ronald Reagan Washington National Airport.
• Identification of drones, drawing on his Air Force security forces experience.
• Insights into Alternate Physics - promoting his Fractal Holographic Universe Theory
• Discussions of UAPs and related topics.
• Insights into space exploration, including his experience at the launch of SpaceX's Starship SN25.
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Support the channel and get exclusive content at
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Invest in UAP Society NFTs!
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Sharing my referral link for when you order your Tesla. You’ll get 500 € off the purchase of a Tesla product.
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