Uploaded August 2026 | Updated September 2026, 2 weeks ago
Mackinzie Rummell is a marriage therapist trying to convince the world that thriving relationships are possible, but they take work. Today, we talk dating and marriage myths, the 4 Horsemen of Divorce, and how to have healthy fights that lead to greater intimacy in marriage and dating.
Mackinzie's Instagram: instagram.com/beachy.therapist/?hl=en
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00:00:00 - Intro
00:01:08 - The Biggest Lie Couples Are Told intro - biggest lie (+ answer)
00:03:20 - Where is the line drawn for healthy conflict?
00:07:48 - What if one partner doesn’t want help?
00:09:18 - Women’s desire for unity
00:11:24 - #1 millennial issue
00:13:31 - Is high conflict a sign of an unhealthy relationship?
00:17:49 - Is “compatibility” important?
00:19:16 - Top three things couples are fighting about:
00:22:29 - Viral advice you disagree with:
00:25:29 - Are soul mates real?
00:27:43 - Fights can be dumb, but important
00:28:39 - What does healthy conflict look like?
00:30:46 - “Have the dang fight”
00:33:19 - How to regulate yourself
00:36:05 - Example of overcoming challenge:
00:38:32 - The 4 Horsemen of Divorce
00:44:25 - Antidote to Stonewalling:
00:47:15 - How to handle avoidant partners?
00:49:59 - How to handle defensiveness?
00:52:43 - You shouldn’t stay in therapy for years
00:55:23 - What does tough love look like in therapy?
00:56:56 - How to make a culture of healthy marriages?
00:58:52 - How to have healthy friendship in marriage?
01:02:50 - Importance of Engagement
01:07:54 - Power of words of affirmation
01:11:01 - Men vs women on Instagram
01:12:33 - Is social media a contagion for divorce?
01:14:03 - One thing couples should do everyday?
Mackinzie Rummell is a marriage therapist trying to convince the world that thriving relationships are possible, but they take work. Today, we talk dating and marriage myths, the 4 Horsemen of Divorce, and how to have healthy fights that lead to greater intimacy in marriage and dating.
Mackinzie's Instagram: instagram.com/beachy.therapist/?hl=en
NEW: Check out our Merch store! shop.lilaroseshow.com
Join our new Patreon community! patreon.com/lilaroseshow - We'll have BTS footage, ad-free episodes, and early access to our upcoming guests.
A big thanks to our partner, EWTN, the world’s leading religious network! Discover news, entertainment and more at ewtn.com
Check out our Sponsors:
-Presidio Healthcare: Healthcare and doctors who share your values. Visit: presidiocare.com/lila
-We Heart Nutrition: weheartnutrition.com Get high quality vitamin supplements for 20% off using the code LILA.
-Good Ranchers: go.goodranchers.com/lila Purchase your American Meat Delivered subscription today and get a free add-on of beef, chicken, or salmon! Use code LILA for $100 off first three orders!
-EveryLife Women: everylife.com/lila Buy diapers and women’s health products from an amazing company and use code LILA10 to get 10% off!
00:00:00 - Intro
00:01:08 - The Biggest Lie Couples Are Told intro - biggest lie (+ answer)
00:03:20 - Where is the line drawn for healthy conflict?
00:07:48 - What if one partner doesn’t want help?
00:09:18 - Women’s desire for unity
00:11:24 - #1 millennial issue
00:13:31 - Is high conflict a sign of an unhealthy relationship?
00:17:49 - Is “compatibility” important?
00:19:16 - Top three things couples are fighting about:
00:22:29 - Viral advice you disagree with:
00:25:29 - Are soul mates real?
00:27:43 - Fights can be dumb, but important
00:28:39 - What does healthy conflict look like?
00:30:46 - “Have the dang fight”
00:33:19 - How to regulate yourself
00:36:05 - Example of overcoming challenge:
00:38:32 - The 4 Horsemen of Divorce
00:44:25 - Antidote to Stonewalling:
00:47:15 - How to handle avoidant partners?
00:49:59 - How to handle defensiveness?
00:52:43 - You shouldn’t stay in therapy for years
00:55:23 - What does tough love look like in therapy?
00:56:56 - How to make a culture of healthy marriages?
00:58:52 - How to have healthy friendship in marriage?
01:02:50 - Importance of Engagement
01:07:54 - Power of words of affirmation
01:11:01 - Men vs women on Instagram
01:12:33 - Is social media a contagion for divorce?
01:14:03 - One thing couples should do everyday?
