Uploaded September 2021 | Updated September 2026, 12 hours ago
In this episode, Brian Auten, Chad Gross and The Belfast Bigot interview Katy Faust about the global children’s rights movement (and book): Them Before Us.
0:38 - Pre-show chat; The Belfast Bigot and the original Bigot.
2:38 - Introduction to Katy Faust and how she got into running a global children’s rights movement
6:43 - How Katy went from being anonymous to going public
7:49 - How Katy influenced the Belfast Bigot
9:40 - The goal of the Them Before Us movement / organization
13:36 - How does Katy hear from kids whose parents prioritize their own desire above children's rights
15:31 - What do we mean when we talk about “rights”?
20:09 - Why children’s rights is something that all political parties should prioritize
24:33 - Three staples of a child’s social/emotional diet
25:27 - How dads are not always the idiots; men and women are different
32:58 - “How are you not pushing a religious view?” and “you’re just shrouding religious views in secular arguments.”
36:11 - Let the data do the talking; disagreeing with reality and biology
38:21 - Can’t same-sex parents do just as good of a job at raising kids?
41:44 - “You’re just hand-picking these stories!”
44:20 - The data we do and don’t have; society is experimenting
47:34 - The psychological damage to children from losing a parent
50:13 - The practical application of “Them Before Us”
53:38 - How does one engage with these topics when people are so quick to label you a bigot or a -phobe?
57:52 - Having reasonable conversations
1:00:17 - Discussion of exceptions to the rules; dishonest argumentation; appeals to acceptance, etc.
1:05:28 - Reproductive technologies and the buying and selling of humans
1:07:51 - Where to find more resources
thembeforeus.com
If you have a question for the podcast, record it and send it our way using speakpipe.com/Apologetics315 or you can email us at podcast@apologetics315.com
In this episode, Brian Auten, Chad Gross and The Belfast Bigot interview Katy Faust about the global children’s rights movement (and book): Them Before Us.
0:38 - Pre-show chat; The Belfast Bigot and the original Bigot.
2:38 - Introduction to Katy Faust and how she got into running a global children’s rights movement
6:43 - How Katy went from being anonymous to going public
7:49 - How Katy influenced the Belfast Bigot
9:40 - The goal of the Them Before Us movement / organization
13:36 - How does Katy hear from kids whose parents prioritize their own desire above children's rights
15:31 - What do we mean when we talk about “rights”?
20:09 - Why children’s rights is something that all political parties should prioritize
24:33 - Three staples of a child’s social/emotional diet
25:27 - How dads are not always the idiots; men and women are different
32:58 - “How are you not pushing a religious view?” and “you’re just shrouding religious views in secular arguments.”
36:11 - Let the data do the talking; disagreeing with reality and biology
38:21 - Can’t same-sex parents do just as good of a job at raising kids?
41:44 - “You’re just hand-picking these stories!”
44:20 - The data we do and don’t have; society is experimenting
47:34 - The psychological damage to children from losing a parent
50:13 - The practical application of “Them Before Us”
53:38 - How does one engage with these topics when people are so quick to label you a bigot or a -phobe?
57:52 - Having reasonable conversations
1:00:17 - Discussion of exceptions to the rules; dishonest argumentation; appeals to acceptance, etc.
1:05:28 - Reproductive technologies and the buying and selling of humans
1:07:51 - Where to find more resources
thembeforeus.com
If you have a question for the podcast, record it and send it our way using speakpipe.com/Apologetics315 or you can email us at podcast@apologetics315.com
