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Ryan Fedasiuk, a China and tech analyst with the American Enterprise Institute, joins Robert Wright to discuss the trajectory of AI and what it means for Sino-American relations—including how China views Mythos, the feasibility of a global AI pause, how controlling AI compares to controlling nuclear arms, and more.
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0:00 A brief message from Bob
1:15 Ryan’s tech policy bona fides
3:53 Is true "recursive self-improvement" near?
8:40 AI agents as strategic empathy machines
14:51 Is a global AI pause possible?
23:05 Mutually assured destruction vs mutually assured AI malfunction
34:50 The case against global AI governance
38:29 Mythos as seen from China
50:15 Heading to Overtime
Discussed in Overtime:
Unpacking China’s open-weight model model.
Who’s winning the US AI race?
Dario’s China endgame.
The moment Ryan became AI-pilled.
Robert Wright (Nonzero, The Evolution of God, Why Buddhism Is True) and Ryan Fedasiuk (The American Enterprise Institute, Georgetown University). Recorded June 08, 2026.
Twitter: twitter.com/NonzeroPods
Ryan Fedasiuk, a China and tech analyst with the American Enterprise Institute, joins Robert Wright to discuss the trajectory of AI and what it means for Sino-American relations—including how China views Mythos, the feasibility of a global AI pause, how controlling AI compares to controlling nuclear arms, and more.
Exclusive Overtime discussion: nonzero.org/p/the-us-china-ai-race-robert-wright
Join NonZero's Discord server: discord.gg/Zy4jAhTQMF
Subscribe to The NonZero Newsletter at: nonzero.org/subscribe
0:00 A brief message from Bob
1:15 Ryan’s tech policy bona fides
3:53 Is true "recursive self-improvement" near?
8:40 AI agents as strategic empathy machines
14:51 Is a global AI pause possible?
23:05 Mutually assured destruction vs mutually assured AI malfunction
34:50 The case against global AI governance
38:29 Mythos as seen from China
50:15 Heading to Overtime
Discussed in Overtime:
Unpacking China’s open-weight model model.
Who’s winning the US AI race?
Dario’s China endgame.
The moment Ryan became AI-pilled.
Robert Wright (Nonzero, The Evolution of God, Why Buddhism Is True) and Ryan Fedasiuk (The American Enterprise Institute, Georgetown University). Recorded June 08, 2026.
Twitter: twitter.com/NonzeroPods
