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UnLab founder Charles Chase explains how to harness vacuum energy for unlimited energy & space propulsion. The Former Skunk Works technologist discusses the top projects at the UnLAB, including coherent matter waves, Casimir energy and quantum-vacuum propulsion.
Web & YouTube Links:
unlab.us
youtube.com/@theunlab4129
After more than three decades at Lockheed Martin—including over 25 years at Skunk Works—Charles retired as a Senior Tech Fellow and continued his advanced research through UnLAB. In this episode, he explains the thinking behind coherent matterwave beams, the Phase-Controlled Matter Beam, Casimir-effect energy concepts, quantum-vacuum forces and Fluctuation Flow Propulsion.
We explore three remarkable patents:
• Systems and Methods for Generating Coherent Matterwave Beams — US9502202B2
Charles Chase and Moe J. Arman
• Quantum Noise Power Devices — US11258379B2
Garret Moddel
• Casimir Power Cell — US12302769B2
Harold “Sonny” White
Using a series of original visualizations, Charles walks us through how these proposed systems are intended to work, what parts rest on established physics, what remains experimental and what kind of evidence would constitute a genuine breakthrough.
Could massive particles be organized into a beam that behaves like laser light? Can engineered Casimir structures create a useful electrical output? Could asymmetric vacuum fluctuations produce thrust without conventional propellant?
This conversation examines the possibilities while maintaining a clear distinction between established physical effects, patented concepts, proposed experiments and demonstrated engineering.
Topics include:
• Coherent matter waves and phase synchronization
• The Aharonov–Bohm effect
• Phase-Controlled Matter Beams
• Atomic-scale manufacturing
• Casimir cavities and quantum noise
• Vacuum-fluctuation energy
• Resonant tunneling structures
• Propellantless propulsion
• Garret Moddel’s Quantum Noise Power Devices
• Sonny White’s Casimir Power Cell
• UnLAB’s current research and future goals
Links and resources:
UnLAB Homepage
unlab.us
UnLAB Coherent Matter Wave Project
unlab.us/coherent-matter-wave-2
The UnLAB YouTube Channel
youtube.com/@theunlab4129
Charles Chase — Google Scholar
scholar.google.com/citations?user=kcZA9xgAAAAJ&hl=en
Charles Chase — LinkedIn
linkedin.com/in/charles-chase-b2838937
Previous Charles Chase Interview
youtube.com/watch?v=DW44J7jaGgs
Charles Chase — Advanced Propulsion & Energy Presentation
youtube.com/watch?v=_HHRlagr7cg
Coherent Matterwave Beam Patent — US9502202B2
patents.google.com/patent/US9502202B2/en
Garret Moddel — Quantum Noise Power Devices — US11258379B2
patents.google.com/patent/US11258379B2/en
Harold “Sonny” White — Casimir Power Cell — US12302769B2
patents.google.com/patent/US12302769B2/en
UnLab founder Charles Chase explains how to harness vacuum energy for unlimited energy & space propulsion. The Former Skunk Works technologist discusses the top projects at the UnLAB, including coherent matter waves, Casimir energy and quantum-vacuum propulsion.
Web & YouTube Links:
unlab.us
youtube.com/@theunlab4129
After more than three decades at Lockheed Martin—including over 25 years at Skunk Works—Charles retired as a Senior Tech Fellow and continued his advanced research through UnLAB. In this episode, he explains the thinking behind coherent matterwave beams, the Phase-Controlled Matter Beam, Casimir-effect energy concepts, quantum-vacuum forces and Fluctuation Flow Propulsion.
We explore three remarkable patents:
• Systems and Methods for Generating Coherent Matterwave Beams — US9502202B2
Charles Chase and Moe J. Arman
• Quantum Noise Power Devices — US11258379B2
Garret Moddel
• Casimir Power Cell — US12302769B2
Harold “Sonny” White
Using a series of original visualizations, Charles walks us through how these proposed systems are intended to work, what parts rest on established physics, what remains experimental and what kind of evidence would constitute a genuine breakthrough.
Could massive particles be organized into a beam that behaves like laser light? Can engineered Casimir structures create a useful electrical output? Could asymmetric vacuum fluctuations produce thrust without conventional propellant?
This conversation examines the possibilities while maintaining a clear distinction between established physical effects, patented concepts, proposed experiments and demonstrated engineering.
Topics include:
• Coherent matter waves and phase synchronization
• The Aharonov–Bohm effect
• Phase-Controlled Matter Beams
• Atomic-scale manufacturing
• Casimir cavities and quantum noise
• Vacuum-fluctuation energy
• Resonant tunneling structures
• Propellantless propulsion
• Garret Moddel’s Quantum Noise Power Devices
• Sonny White’s Casimir Power Cell
• UnLAB’s current research and future goals
Links and resources:
UnLAB Homepage
unlab.us
UnLAB Coherent Matter Wave Project
unlab.us/coherent-matter-wave-2
The UnLAB YouTube Channel
youtube.com/@theunlab4129
Charles Chase — Google Scholar
scholar.google.com/citations?user=kcZA9xgAAAAJ&hl=en
Charles Chase — LinkedIn
linkedin.com/in/charles-chase-b2838937
Previous Charles Chase Interview
youtube.com/watch?v=DW44J7jaGgs
Charles Chase — Advanced Propulsion & Energy Presentation
youtube.com/watch?v=_HHRlagr7cg
Coherent Matterwave Beam Patent — US9502202B2
patents.google.com/patent/US9502202B2/en
Garret Moddel — Quantum Noise Power Devices — US11258379B2
patents.google.com/patent/US11258379B2/en
Harold “Sonny” White — Casimir Power Cell — US12302769B2
patents.google.com/patent/US12302769B2/en
