The ultimate conversation is deeeeep, man | Cog psych take on Petersons 12 Rules, Rule 9 Pt 4 #25 @CassEris
The ultimate conversation is deeeeep, man | Cog psych take on Petersons 12 Rules, Rule 9 Pt 4 #25  @CassEris
Uploaded May 2020 | Updated September 2026, 1 week ago
It took four videos to get through Rule 9 ("Assume that the person you are listening to might know something you don't") of Jordan B. Peterson's "12 Rules for Life: An Antidote to Chaos," but we did it. Finally.


In this last part, we go through Peterson's categories of conversation and are told about the type of conversation we should aspire to.


A note that didn't make it into the video: I didn't want to derail the video by discussing solitary confinement (also because we touched on it in the parenting videos). But I would argue that people going into solitary, who definitely seem to suffer ill effects from being in "the hole," are not typically in a good place prior to going into solitary. Plus there's the disproportionate number of people with mental health problems in the prison population, which could also be a predisposing factor.


Key for the conversation types in the thumbnail (starting at 12 o'clock, working clockwise):
- Active philosophy
- Talking as thinking
- Dominance hierarchy
- Wit
- Active listener
- Lecture
- Dominance hierarchy opponent
- Ideological dominance

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Timestamps
0:00 Deep conversations
1:26 Intro
2:59 "Primate Dominance - Hierarchy Manoeuvres - and Wit"
- 4:54 Type 3: Hierarchy dominance
- 8:13 Type 4: One-upper stand-off
- 10:10 Type 5: Ideological dominance
- 12:59 Dominance vs. listening
- 19:35 Type 6: Lecture
- 22:12 Type 7: Wit
27:06 "Conversation on the Way"
- 27:12 Type 8: Active philosophy
36:31 Conclusion


Link
Patton Oswalt link (yes, it's through Reddit): reddit.com/r/comedy/comments/afkve4/this_patton_oswalt_bit_about_politically_correct
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