Uploaded August 2025 | Updated September 2026, 4 days ago
Exploring the tensions between ideology and reality, or ‘indestructible maps’ and participation in mystery and incompleteness, welcoming the philosopher, Voicecraft Network contributor and author of The Map is Indestructible, O.G. Rose in the form of Daniel Garner, in dialogue with Tim Adalin. This conversation continues the Cultural Shamanism series and begins with an explication of global pluralism.
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Access the shownotes & learn more about Voicecraft podcasts, events, courses and membership network @ voicecraft.io/content/e132-the-trance-of-ideology-global-pluralism-indestructible-maps-w/-og-rose-tim-adalin-cultural-shamanism-pt-3
O.G. Rose's YouTube channel @O.G.Rose.Michelle.and.Daniel
Find 'The Map Is Indestructible' here: amazon.com/Map-Indestructible-Problems-Internally-Consistent/dp/1736507591
Listen to Daniel speak with Cadell Last in a conversation titled 'The Map Is Indestructible' @ youtu.be/UOFPEIyj8Sc
Chapters
00:00:00 Introduction
00:01:00 Defining Global Pluralism
00:08:30 The Loss of Givens and the Rise of Indestructible Maps
00:36:12 Address vs Explanation: Opening to the Gödel Point
00:51:23 Universal Points of Connection Across Different Maps
00:54:01 Authority, Authorship, and Relationality
01:24:29 Cultural Shamanism and the Necessity of Gödel Points
01:39:14 Practical Challenges: Authority, Intimacy, and Trust
01:55:36 Desire, Drive, Presence
02:11:52 (In)formal Conviviality and the Future of Belonging
Listen to the full intro song by Cantrips titled 'The Big Break' @ youtu.be/Qaj-stBL4W0
Exploring the tensions between ideology and reality, or ‘indestructible maps’ and participation in mystery and incompleteness, welcoming the philosopher, Voicecraft Network contributor and author of The Map is Indestructible, O.G. Rose in the form of Daniel Garner, in dialogue with Tim Adalin. This conversation continues the Cultural Shamanism series and begins with an explication of global pluralism.
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Access the shownotes & learn more about Voicecraft podcasts, events, courses and membership network @ voicecraft.io/content/e132-the-trance-of-ideology-global-pluralism-indestructible-maps-w/-og-rose-tim-adalin-cultural-shamanism-pt-3
O.G. Rose's YouTube channel @O.G.Rose.Michelle.and.Daniel
Find 'The Map Is Indestructible' here: amazon.com/Map-Indestructible-Problems-Internally-Consistent/dp/1736507591
Listen to Daniel speak with Cadell Last in a conversation titled 'The Map Is Indestructible' @ youtu.be/UOFPEIyj8Sc
Chapters
00:00:00 Introduction
00:01:00 Defining Global Pluralism
00:08:30 The Loss of Givens and the Rise of Indestructible Maps
00:36:12 Address vs Explanation: Opening to the Gödel Point
00:51:23 Universal Points of Connection Across Different Maps
00:54:01 Authority, Authorship, and Relationality
01:24:29 Cultural Shamanism and the Necessity of Gödel Points
01:39:14 Practical Challenges: Authority, Intimacy, and Trust
01:55:36 Desire, Drive, Presence
02:11:52 (In)formal Conviviality and the Future of Belonging
Listen to the full intro song by Cantrips titled 'The Big Break' @ youtu.be/Qaj-stBL4W0
