Uploaded February 2026 | Updated September 2026, 2 weeks ago
On the latest episode of The Journey Man, filmed with a live audience at Crypto Gathering 2026 in Miami, Raoul Pal sits down with Jordi Visser, head of AI macro nexus research at 22V, to discuss the commodity supercycle, the advancements in robotics and AI, the abundance vs. scarcity trade, the decline of software companies, and much more. Recorded January 24, 2026.
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Timestamps:
00:00 Abra Sponsor
00:54 Welcome to The Journeyman
02:38 Macro, Crypto & AI Converge
05:06 Silver: The Metal Behind AI
08:00 The $85T AI Buildout
11:05 Resources, Geopolitics & Power
14:20 Europe’s Strategy vs the US
17:16 AI = Deflation Shock
20:19 Why Long-Duration Assets Break
23:02 Scarcity vs Abundance Investing
26:13 Stimulus, Politics & the AI Race
29:04 Why Silver Is Non-Negotiable
32:17 Is Software Actually Investable?
35:44 Agents Replace SaaS
38:53 Why Big Tech Can’t Adapt Fast Enough
42:05 Commodities: Rent or Own?
45:26 Solar, Power & Grid Bottlenecks
48:39 Energy Taxes & AI Economics
50:14 AGI Fears & the Human Question
53:18 Advice for Gen Z
55:22 AI as a Learning Weapon
56:49 NFTs as Cultural Memory
57:38 Final Thoughts & Outro
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On the latest episode of The Journey Man, filmed with a live audience at Crypto Gathering 2026 in Miami, Raoul Pal sits down with Jordi Visser, head of AI macro nexus research at 22V, to discuss the commodity supercycle, the advancements in robotics and AI, the abundance vs. scarcity trade, the decline of software companies, and much more. Recorded January 24, 2026.
📣 This episode comes to you thanks to Figure Markets. Use Figure’s Democratized Prime and enter to win $25k USDC while earning ~9% APY. The more you participate, the better your odds! Start now and enter to win while earning money on your crypto with Democratized Prime. Enter here 👉 democratizedprime.pxf.io/c/6873097/3755092/37696
👉 Abra provides custody, trading, yield and BTC-backed loan products for digital assets for HNW and corporate clients. Abra provides full service treasury management for digital asset treasuries and corporations. Buy and hold digital assets in segregated accounts with multi-sig security. Visit realvision.com/abra to learn more.
Timestamps:
00:00 Abra Sponsor
00:54 Welcome to The Journeyman
02:38 Macro, Crypto & AI Converge
05:06 Silver: The Metal Behind AI
08:00 The $85T AI Buildout
11:05 Resources, Geopolitics & Power
14:20 Europe’s Strategy vs the US
17:16 AI = Deflation Shock
20:19 Why Long-Duration Assets Break
23:02 Scarcity vs Abundance Investing
26:13 Stimulus, Politics & the AI Race
29:04 Why Silver Is Non-Negotiable
32:17 Is Software Actually Investable?
35:44 Agents Replace SaaS
38:53 Why Big Tech Can’t Adapt Fast Enough
42:05 Commodities: Rent or Own?
45:26 Solar, Power & Grid Bottlenecks
48:39 Energy Taxes & AI Economics
50:14 AGI Fears & the Human Question
53:18 Advice for Gen Z
55:22 AI as a Learning Weapon
56:49 NFTs as Cultural Memory
57:38 Final Thoughts & Outro
Unlock the potential to showcase your brand to our global audience. Contact us at partnerships@realvision.com for advertising inquiries.
🍌 Get your Banana Zone swag at the Real Vision merch store: shop.realvision.com
Connect with me:
Twitter (X): twitter.com/RaoulGMI
Instagram: instagram.com/raoulgmi
LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/raoul-pal-real-vision
My other work:
Real Vision: rvtv.io/3LHYIaH
Global Macro Investor: globalmacroinvestor.com
The Exponentialist: realvision.com/thefuture
EXPAAM: expaam.com
Connect with Real Vision™:
Twitter: rvtv.io/twitter
Instagram: rvtv.io/instagram
Get a FREE membership: rvtv.io/3Y4t5Pw
Disclaimer: media.realvision.com/wp/20231004185303/Disclaimer-1.pdf
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