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Financial educator and author Haley Sacks, known as Mrs. Dow Jones and called the financial guru millennials listen to by The Wall Street Journal, joins Lewis Howes to discuss her book Future Rich Person: The New Rules for Building Wealth. This episode covers Sacks' three rules for building wealth (money mindset, action money, and securing the bag), her IBIZA money mindset program (Identify, Blame, Interrupt, Z, Action), the concept of learned financial helplessness, value-based spending, frictionless finance, compound interest and index fund investing, and the psychology behind why people look rich instead of building real wealth.
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00:00 - Introduction to the Financial Guru Haley Sacks
00:36 - The Dangers of Frictionless Finance & Emotional Spending
01:28 - Rule #1: Healing Your Money Mindset
02:27 - Rule #2: Utilizing Action Money to Grow Wealth
03:14 - The Trap of Financial Energy & "Latte Shaming"
05:54 - Looking Rich vs. Being Rich: The $30k Mistake
09:47 - Quality vs. Signaling: The Brand Name Trap
11:57 - Financial Nihilism & The True Cost of Waiting to Invest
13:36 - Luxury Resale & The Truth About Birkin Bag "Investments"
16:59 - Value-Based Spending: How to Cut Costs Without Deprivation
18:05 - The Janitor Who Died With $8 Million
20:00 - Why You Need a 401k Even in Your 20s
22:31 - Overcoming Money Shame & Reclaiming Your Value
24:41 - Family Secrecy & The Power of Financial Independence
28:09 - 3 Things Parents Should Teach Kids About Money
33:36 - Lessons from Old Wealth: Leveraging Debt Wisely
37:34 - Simple Investing: Why Average Returns Beat Chasing Risks
38:57 - The Strings Attached to Family Support
43:27 - Future-Proofing Your Career in the Age of AI
46:13 - Identifying Your Money Wounds & Finding Balance
51:21 - The ABIZA Framework for Financial Freedom
58:59 - How to Handle Stock Market Volatility & Emotions
01:10:50 - Haley's Three Truths: Rest, Giving, & Experiences
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Financial educator and author Haley Sacks, known as Mrs. Dow Jones and called the financial guru millennials listen to by The Wall Street Journal, joins Lewis Howes to discuss her book Future Rich Person: The New Rules for Building Wealth. This episode covers Sacks' three rules for building wealth (money mindset, action money, and securing the bag), her IBIZA money mindset program (Identify, Blame, Interrupt, Z, Action), the concept of learned financial helplessness, value-based spending, frictionless finance, compound interest and index fund investing, and the psychology behind why people look rich instead of building real wealth.
Get your copy of Future Rich Person: The New Rules for Building Wealth amzn.to/4m6qL4G
Financial Tea Podcast podlink.com/1860939850?utm_source=ig&utm_medium=social&utm_content=link_in_bio&fbclid=PAZXh0bgNhZW0CMTEAc3J0YwZhcHBfaWQMMjU2MjgxMDQwNTU4AAGnnUbmk5FBbx63743e0jEsh2NZDFYMtvMCXIar_kHFWO3EfyKrV-YxLrTT22U_aem_MKixC5cpZN04R86UXwoEgQ
Haley on Instagram instagram.com/mrsdowjones
Listen to this episode on the go!
🍎 Apple Podcasts: podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-school-of-greatness/id596047499
🟢 Spotify: open.spotify.com/show/07GQhOZboEZOE1ysnFLipT?si=a03d916bade54d4f
For more info about this episode, go to lewishowes.com/1927
💰 get my NEW YORK TIMES BESTSELLING book "Make Money Easy" today!lewishowes.com/moneyyou
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Spanish: youtube.com/@LewisHowesEspañol
Portuguese: youtube.com/@LewisHowesPortugues
Lewis Howes Shorts: youtube.com/@lewishowesshorts
00:00 - Introduction to the Financial Guru Haley Sacks
00:36 - The Dangers of Frictionless Finance & Emotional Spending
01:28 - Rule #1: Healing Your Money Mindset
02:27 - Rule #2: Utilizing Action Money to Grow Wealth
03:14 - The Trap of Financial Energy & "Latte Shaming"
05:54 - Looking Rich vs. Being Rich: The $30k Mistake
09:47 - Quality vs. Signaling: The Brand Name Trap
11:57 - Financial Nihilism & The True Cost of Waiting to Invest
13:36 - Luxury Resale & The Truth About Birkin Bag "Investments"
16:59 - Value-Based Spending: How to Cut Costs Without Deprivation
18:05 - The Janitor Who Died With $8 Million
20:00 - Why You Need a 401k Even in Your 20s
22:31 - Overcoming Money Shame & Reclaiming Your Value
24:41 - Family Secrecy & The Power of Financial Independence
28:09 - 3 Things Parents Should Teach Kids About Money
33:36 - Lessons from Old Wealth: Leveraging Debt Wisely
37:34 - Simple Investing: Why Average Returns Beat Chasing Risks
38:57 - The Strings Attached to Family Support
43:27 - Future-Proofing Your Career in the Age of AI
46:13 - Identifying Your Money Wounds & Finding Balance
51:21 - The ABIZA Framework for Financial Freedom
58:59 - How to Handle Stock Market Volatility & Emotions
01:10:50 - Haley's Three Truths: Rest, Giving, & Experiences
This episode is brought to you by Apple &
T-Mobile 5G Home Internet. T-Mobile.com/HomeInternet
#greatness #inspiration #motivation
