Uploaded August 2026 | Updated September 2026, 2 weeks ago
What is the change you seek to make?
On today's episode we go back to the Finding Mastery Vault for a conversation with Seth Godin, author, entrepreneur, teacher, and one of the most influential thinkers of our time on leadership, creativity, and making meaningful change. Seth has written more than twenty international bestsellers, including The Dip, Purple Cow, and The Song of Significance, alongside one of the longest-running daily blogs in the world. His claim is that naming the change you're actually trying to make is more than a branding exercise. It's what helps make every downstream decision clearer… what to commit to, what to quit, whose opinion to take seriously, and who you will have to become to pull it off.
We first released this one a few years ago, and since then the world has only gotten noisier, faster and more demanding of change, which is exactly why we felt it was worth bringing back.
In this episode, you'll learn:
- What Seth means by naming the change you seek to make, and why it clarifies everything downstream
- Leadership as a voluntary act, and why enrollment and inspiration come before authority
- Why consistency is what makes you trustworthy enough to lead change at all
- How to tell a dead end from a dip when you're deciding whether to quit
- Whose judgment has actually earned the right to shape your work
- Who to go to for reassurance, and who to go to for insight
If you have ever felt your choices quietly bending toward the approval of people who have not earned it, this conversation offers you a powerful perspective you need to hear.
CHAPTERS
0:00 Seth Godin Introduction
2:30 The Difference Between Leadership and Management
10:01 Finding Your Personal Philosophy
14:51 Stop Trying to Be “Authentic”
30:20 What Change Do You Want to Make?
36:00 What Great Innovators Understand
39:45 How to Know When to Quit
43:04 Stop Caring What Other People Think
52:49 Choose Your Audience, Choose Your Future
1:03:26 Let Go of the Outcome
Seth Godin Photo Credit: Brian Bloom
For More on Seth, go to sethgodin.com
Seth Godin’s Books: The Dip, Purple Cow, Linchpin, Tribes, This Is Marketing, The Practice, and The Song of Significance. His newest book, The Knot: Problems Can Be Solved, is set to be released in September 2026.
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#FindingMastery #SethGodin #DrMichaelGervais #Leadership #Authenticity #Consistency #Quitting #TheDip #PurpleCow #Marketing #Creativity #FOPO #Psychology #HighPerformance #Mindset #Change
What is the change you seek to make?
On today's episode we go back to the Finding Mastery Vault for a conversation with Seth Godin, author, entrepreneur, teacher, and one of the most influential thinkers of our time on leadership, creativity, and making meaningful change. Seth has written more than twenty international bestsellers, including The Dip, Purple Cow, and The Song of Significance, alongside one of the longest-running daily blogs in the world. His claim is that naming the change you're actually trying to make is more than a branding exercise. It's what helps make every downstream decision clearer… what to commit to, what to quit, whose opinion to take seriously, and who you will have to become to pull it off.
We first released this one a few years ago, and since then the world has only gotten noisier, faster and more demanding of change, which is exactly why we felt it was worth bringing back.
In this episode, you'll learn:
- What Seth means by naming the change you seek to make, and why it clarifies everything downstream
- Leadership as a voluntary act, and why enrollment and inspiration come before authority
- Why consistency is what makes you trustworthy enough to lead change at all
- How to tell a dead end from a dip when you're deciding whether to quit
- Whose judgment has actually earned the right to shape your work
- Who to go to for reassurance, and who to go to for insight
If you have ever felt your choices quietly bending toward the approval of people who have not earned it, this conversation offers you a powerful perspective you need to hear.
CHAPTERS
0:00 Seth Godin Introduction
2:30 The Difference Between Leadership and Management
10:01 Finding Your Personal Philosophy
14:51 Stop Trying to Be “Authentic”
30:20 What Change Do You Want to Make?
36:00 What Great Innovators Understand
39:45 How to Know When to Quit
43:04 Stop Caring What Other People Think
52:49 Choose Your Audience, Choose Your Future
1:03:26 Let Go of the Outcome
Seth Godin Photo Credit: Brian Bloom
For More on Seth, go to sethgodin.com
Seth Godin’s Books: The Dip, Purple Cow, Linchpin, Tribes, This Is Marketing, The Practice, and The Song of Significance. His newest book, The Knot: Problems Can Be Solved, is set to be released in September 2026.
💥 Support our sponsors and get exclusive discounts: findingmastery.com/sponsors
📬 Sign up for the Finding Mastery newsletter: findingmastery.com/newsletter
🧠 Download Dr. Mike’s Morning Mindset Routine: findingmastery.com/morningmindset
#FindingMastery #SethGodin #DrMichaelGervais #Leadership #Authenticity #Consistency #Quitting #TheDip #PurpleCow #Marketing #Creativity #FOPO #Psychology #HighPerformance #Mindset #Change
