Uploaded April 2026 | Updated September 2026, 2 weeks ago
Why do we keep chasing happiness in ways that don't actually work?
Dr. Laurie Santos, cognitive scientist, Yale professor, and host of The Happiness Lab, joins Dr. Michael Gervais for a conversation about what the science of wellbeing actually says about how to live a good life. Laurie created the most popular course in Yale's history on the science of well-being. In this episode, she explains why our brains are so reliably bad at predicting what will make us happy, and what we can do to change that.
Laurie opens with a striking data point: right now, more than 40% of college students say they're too depressed to function. More than 60% report overwhelming anxiety. She saw it firsthand, living with students at Yale, and it launched her on a mission to bring evidence-based wellbeing tools to as many people as possible.
This conversation goes well beyond the idea of "being positive." It's about understanding how your brain works: why it fixates on the comparisons that make you feel worse, why success doesn't deliver the lasting satisfaction you expect, and why the simplest behaviors (talking to a stranger, calling a friend, naming what you feel) are backed by some of the strongest research in psychology.
In this episode, you'll learn:
-Why getting rich, more successful, or more attractive won't make you as happy as you think
-How social comparison hijacks your satisfaction, and how to work with it
-Why introverts get just as much happiness from social connection as extroverts
-How your emotions are trying to tell you something, and what happens when you actually listen
-What three questions predict happiness at work better than salary or management quality
-Why happier companies outperform the S&P 500 (and what that means for leaders)
Everyone wants to live a good life. This is one of those rare conversations that might genuinely help you do it.
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CHAPTERS
0:00 Dr. Laurie Santos Introduction
2:59 Why She Started Studying Happiness
4:08 Breaking Down the Causes
8:52 Lack of Psychological Skills (Parenting Impact)
11:43 What Happiness Actually Means (Science)
16:01 How the Mind Works: Relative Thinking
23:16 How to Actually Become Happier
25:00 Do We Want Less Sadness? (Meaning vs Comfort)
27:11 Emotions as Signals (Engine Light Analogy)
33:06 Mindfulness & Real-Time Emotional Awareness
36:46 Self-Talk & Psychological Distancing
39:10 Self-Compassion vs Self-Criticism
40:48 Dealing with Overwhelm
43:43 Practicing What You Preach (Personal Struggles)
47:54 Core Habits for Happiness
52:17 The Real Problem with Sleep & Habits
59:34 Technology & Happiness (Phones, Social Media)
1:01:08 Mood → Innovation & Problem Solving
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Why do we keep chasing happiness in ways that don't actually work?
Dr. Laurie Santos, cognitive scientist, Yale professor, and host of The Happiness Lab, joins Dr. Michael Gervais for a conversation about what the science of wellbeing actually says about how to live a good life. Laurie created the most popular course in Yale's history on the science of well-being. In this episode, she explains why our brains are so reliably bad at predicting what will make us happy, and what we can do to change that.
Laurie opens with a striking data point: right now, more than 40% of college students say they're too depressed to function. More than 60% report overwhelming anxiety. She saw it firsthand, living with students at Yale, and it launched her on a mission to bring evidence-based wellbeing tools to as many people as possible.
This conversation goes well beyond the idea of "being positive." It's about understanding how your brain works: why it fixates on the comparisons that make you feel worse, why success doesn't deliver the lasting satisfaction you expect, and why the simplest behaviors (talking to a stranger, calling a friend, naming what you feel) are backed by some of the strongest research in psychology.
In this episode, you'll learn:
-Why getting rich, more successful, or more attractive won't make you as happy as you think
-How social comparison hijacks your satisfaction, and how to work with it
-Why introverts get just as much happiness from social connection as extroverts
-How your emotions are trying to tell you something, and what happens when you actually listen
-What three questions predict happiness at work better than salary or management quality
-Why happier companies outperform the S&P 500 (and what that means for leaders)
Everyone wants to live a good life. This is one of those rare conversations that might genuinely help you do it.
__________________________________
CHAPTERS
0:00 Dr. Laurie Santos Introduction
2:59 Why She Started Studying Happiness
4:08 Breaking Down the Causes
8:52 Lack of Psychological Skills (Parenting Impact)
11:43 What Happiness Actually Means (Science)
16:01 How the Mind Works: Relative Thinking
23:16 How to Actually Become Happier
25:00 Do We Want Less Sadness? (Meaning vs Comfort)
27:11 Emotions as Signals (Engine Light Analogy)
33:06 Mindfulness & Real-Time Emotional Awareness
36:46 Self-Talk & Psychological Distancing
39:10 Self-Compassion vs Self-Criticism
40:48 Dealing with Overwhelm
43:43 Practicing What You Preach (Personal Struggles)
47:54 Core Habits for Happiness
52:17 The Real Problem with Sleep & Habits
59:34 Technology & Happiness (Phones, Social Media)
1:01:08 Mood → Innovation & Problem Solving
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#findingmastery #LaurieSantos #HappinessLab #DrMichaelGervais #ScienceOfHappiness #Wellbeing #PositivePsychology #Mindset #HighPerformance #MentalHealth #Happiness #Psychology #YaleCourse #scienceofwellbeing #selfhelp #DrLaurieSantos #Lauriesantos
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