Uploaded May 2023 | Updated September 2026, 2 hours ago
From enduring her husband’s life-changing, horrific war injuries to becoming a National Advocate for wounded Veterans and their Caregivers, Sarah Verardo’s relentless never quit attitude has driven her to the forefront of two separate organizations who see the needs of Veterans and Allies, which have given her the opportunity to steward resources and support where and when they are most crucially needed.
Sarah’s husband, Sgt. Michael Verardo was catastrophically wounded in Afghanistan in two separate IED attacks that took his left leg, much of his left arm, and left him with polytraumatic conditions that have required over one hundred surgeries and years of speech, visual, physical, and occupational therapies.
Nevertheless, Sarah speaks with Marcus about the everyday challenges she and her daughters face in the care of her husband, her involvement as the CEO of The Independence Fund, and being at the forefront of Afghan Ally inclusion within the Veteran community. In August 2021, the collapse of Afghanistan led her and three others to co-found the direct-response rescue and aid organization – Save Our Allies, who evacuated more than 17,000 US citizens, SIV holders, and wartime Allies from the country and assisted in medical and humanitarian relief efforts in Ukraine.
In this episode you will hear:
• [Michael Verardo] was injured the first time. He was riding as a gunner and hit a roadside IED. He was ejected out. (12:54)
• On his very first foot patrol back in – It was 14 days to the day of the first IED, there was an old Russian land mine that had been hooked up to 2 – 15gallon drums of homemade explosives, and it was game over. His left leg was immediately blown off. Most of his left arm was blown off. They actually ended up sewing it to his back on his medical flight. He burned over 30% of his body. He had damage to his airway, his eardrums were blown out. It was significant poly trauma. (13:29)
• Marcus: “He got banged up and then you all got married?” (17:02)
• Marcus: You know the odds of that happening? That’s when you know you’re not behind the wheel. (17:46)
• That sense of patriotism calling – That’s all he wanted to do. (18:02)
• It’s been horrific. More than my worst nightmare. (18:26)
• He actually handed me a Bible before he handed me an engagement ring. (20:18)
• He said holiness needs to be more important than happiness. (20:37)
• His only prosthetic leg broke, and I duct taped it for 57 days while I waited for someone at the VA to sign a piece of paper. (33:18)
• The Navy and the Navy hospital took care of him as if he was one of their own while we waited for VA to kick in. (24:23)
• I think there needs to be permanent designations for certain conditions. (26:24)
• It seems that some people – not all – at VA would rather fail by following the process, than succeed by deviating from it. (27:21)
• Independence Fund started out in the halls of Water Reed, wanting to give independence back to those who sacrificed theirs for us. (34:39)
• If someone did not care about Afghanistan at that time, it told me everything I needed to know about them. (41:47)
• I think the White House wants us to move on from Afghanistan. They’re not only not helping – I think they’re actively in the way of groups that want to do good. (52:36)
• Reach out to the wounded veterans in your community and help these families. (59:15)
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Each week join Retired Navy SEAL and Lone Survivor Marcus Luttrell, Morgan Luttrell, and Producer Andrew Brockenbush as they’ll take you into the “briefing room” to chat with incredible guests who share their greatest never quit stories. This humorous, heartfelt, and entertaining podcast is changing lives and has become a beacon of hope and resilience to those who are facing the impossible. One of the best ways we can support our community is to share their stories so that we might inspire others to Never Quit.
We’re bringing you real-life stories of men and women who took life’s toughest challenges and met them head-on, radically changing their own lives and inspiring others to do the same.
From enduring her husband’s life-changing, horrific war injuries to becoming a National Advocate for wounded Veterans and their Caregivers, Sarah Verardo’s relentless never quit attitude has driven her to the forefront of two separate organizations who see the needs of Veterans and Allies, which have given her the opportunity to steward resources and support where and when they are most crucially needed.
Sarah’s husband, Sgt. Michael Verardo was catastrophically wounded in Afghanistan in two separate IED attacks that took his left leg, much of his left arm, and left him with polytraumatic conditions that have required over one hundred surgeries and years of speech, visual, physical, and occupational therapies.
Nevertheless, Sarah speaks with Marcus about the everyday challenges she and her daughters face in the care of her husband, her involvement as the CEO of The Independence Fund, and being at the forefront of Afghan Ally inclusion within the Veteran community. In August 2021, the collapse of Afghanistan led her and three others to co-found the direct-response rescue and aid organization – Save Our Allies, who evacuated more than 17,000 US citizens, SIV holders, and wartime Allies from the country and assisted in medical and humanitarian relief efforts in Ukraine.
In this episode you will hear:
• [Michael Verardo] was injured the first time. He was riding as a gunner and hit a roadside IED. He was ejected out. (12:54)
• On his very first foot patrol back in – It was 14 days to the day of the first IED, there was an old Russian land mine that had been hooked up to 2 – 15gallon drums of homemade explosives, and it was game over. His left leg was immediately blown off. Most of his left arm was blown off. They actually ended up sewing it to his back on his medical flight. He burned over 30% of his body. He had damage to his airway, his eardrums were blown out. It was significant poly trauma. (13:29)
• Marcus: “He got banged up and then you all got married?” (17:02)
• Marcus: You know the odds of that happening? That’s when you know you’re not behind the wheel. (17:46)
• That sense of patriotism calling – That’s all he wanted to do. (18:02)
• It’s been horrific. More than my worst nightmare. (18:26)
• He actually handed me a Bible before he handed me an engagement ring. (20:18)
• He said holiness needs to be more important than happiness. (20:37)
• His only prosthetic leg broke, and I duct taped it for 57 days while I waited for someone at the VA to sign a piece of paper. (33:18)
• The Navy and the Navy hospital took care of him as if he was one of their own while we waited for VA to kick in. (24:23)
• I think there needs to be permanent designations for certain conditions. (26:24)
• It seems that some people – not all – at VA would rather fail by following the process, than succeed by deviating from it. (27:21)
• Independence Fund started out in the halls of Water Reed, wanting to give independence back to those who sacrificed theirs for us. (34:39)
• If someone did not care about Afghanistan at that time, it told me everything I needed to know about them. (41:47)
• I think the White House wants us to move on from Afghanistan. They’re not only not helping – I think they’re actively in the way of groups that want to do good. (52:36)
• Reach out to the wounded veterans in your community and help these families. (59:15)
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We’re bringing you real-life stories of men and women who took life’s toughest challenges and met them head-on, radically changing their own lives and inspiring others to do the same.
![CHRISTOPHER C. MILLER: Former Secretary of Defense, Retired U.S. Special Forces
In this week’s Team Never Quit Podcast, Marcus spends some time speaking with retired U.S. Army Special Forces Colonel Chris Miller, who served as the Acting Secretary of Defense under President Donald Trump. Chris also served as Director of the National Counter-Terrorism Center as well as numerous command and staff positions within the 5th Special Forces group (Airborne). He also participated in combat operations in Afghanistan & Iraq.
In his role as the Secretary of Defense, Chris was overseeing military departments, the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, the unified commands, as well as planning and coordinating military deployments and operations.
With his vast military knowledge and experience of over 3 decades, Mr. Miller brings to the table an interesting and informative perspective to the role of the U.S military, and it’s function at every level.
In this episode you will hear:
• This is the book launch, officially. (9:01)
• They have all this exclusive intelligence. You know how much got to the ground force? Zero.(15:44)
• There were lessons learned, and we’re all about passing it on. That’s what we’re all about now. (18:07)
• [Speaking to Marcus] This is the path the Lord put you on. You accept that. You are the face of the war. (21:58)
• The [the military] has a structure that will take people in and form them differently and change how they view life in a good way. (25 :00)
• The army makes a good man better and a bad man worse. (27:26)
• It’s all about selfless service and it’s not about you (32:44)
• When my heart and my mind became aligned with being a selfless servant, it was like rocket fuel. (33:28)
• When you realize this is how it is might as well just embrace it. It’s a game changer. (33:42)
• I was the Secretary of Defense under President Trump for the last 73 days. Not a lot went on. (37:19)
• I spent like 35-36 years as a government employee or as a military person. (38:03)
• If you are asked to interview for a job, always interview because you’re gonna learn something and you might get the job. (42:28)
• Al Qaeda had been seriously weakened from all of our attacks. We call it mowing the grass. Just keep killing them off. Eventually there’s not going to be anybody left – and it worked. (44:32)
• I know we can’t defeat terrorism – that’s a verb. We can defeat Al Quada (a noun). (45:26)
• [Marcus] If we’re fighting terrorists, we’re trained terrorists, trained to cause terror to them, so much so that there won’t be another group coming up after them. (45:57)
• Special Operator: Figure out the network, figure out the incentive system, communicate, execute. (46:50)
• The only person who could keep us attacking was President Trump. (47 :04)
• We killed off the head of ISIS. This guy was the definition of evil. (47:38)
• The President asked me if I wanted to become a political appointee. (48:36)
• The purpose of the military is not only to protect and serve, but to defend the constitution and to ultimately protect the people of the United States. (51:43)
• Chris’ Book: Soldier Secretary
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We’re bringing you real-life stories of men and women who took life’s toughest challenges and met them head-on, radically changing their own lives and inspiring others to do the same. CHRISTOPHER C. MILLER: Former Secretary of Defense, Retired U.S. Special Forces](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/_SgYVcZnXW8/mqdefault.jpg)
![CHRIS CASSIDY: NASA Chief Astronaut, Navy SEAL, National Medal of Honor Museum CEO
Thriving Across Sea, Air, Land, and Space.
In this week’s Team Never Quit episode, we are honored to host a true hero of our time, Captain Chris Cassidy. With a decorated dual career as a U.S. Navy Captain (SEAL) and NASA Astronaut, Captain Cassidy’s journey across the sea, air, land, and outer space is nothing short of inspirational.
Captain Cassidy shares his remarkable journey from the U.S. Naval Academy to becoming NASA’s 15th Chief Astronaut. He delves into the transition from serving as a member of the U.S. Navy SEALs to embarking on spaceflight missions, emphasizing the importance of adaptability and perseverance in the face of challenges.
As a proven leader of diverse teams, both in the military and at NASA, Captain Cassidy provides invaluable insights into effective leadership. Drawing from his experiences as a commander of the International Space Station and various military deployments, he highlights the significance of collaboration, communication, and developing trust in achieving common goals.
Captain Cassidy empowers the never-quit mindset and supports others on their journey to success. He emphasizes the importance of giving back to the community and serving as a source of inspiration for future generations.
As we look to the stars and beyond, his story serves as a reminder that with determination and leadership, anything is possible.
Join us for an unforgettable conversation with Captain Chris Cassidy, as we explore the depths of the ocean, the heights of space, and the limitless potential of the human spirit.
In this episode you will hear:
• Looking for a way to pay for school is what led me to the Navy. (5:58)
• In a small town in Maine, people play football and soccer, and Friday the season ends, on Monday basketball starts, and when that season ended, baseball started. (6:41)
• I didn’t even know [the SEALS] were a thing. I just knew I could be in the Navy and they would help me pay for college. (7:18)
• If it’s the head of human resources voice you hear [on the phone], you’re not gonna be an astronaut, but if it’s the chief astronaut, like the commanding officer, then it might be a good call. (23:01)
• Come to work with a good attitude and grind, and you’ll be asked to do things, and doors will open. (26:47)
• I wanted to go to space. It was really that simple. Once I got selected, I just wanted to do my first mission. (29:11)
• If you don’t have a little pucker factor, you don’t understand the physics that are going on behind you. (34:15)
• A rendezvous to the Space Station is kinda like that line drive throw. We have to launch at exactly the right moment when the Space Station is in the perfect spot in the sky, so that we rendezvous together. (38:43)
• When you land on water, it might be softer, but the mission is not over until you’re on the ship. (45:21)
• [After a space mission] you’re very uncoordinated, very wobbly, very unstable. We’re not allowed to drive a car for 2 weeks, or ride a bicycle for2weeks. It takes about a month to be normal again. (45:47)
• If you have a fire, you gotta put it out. If you can’t put it out, you close hatches, and isolate compartments. If it overcomes the whole thing, you gotta leave. (50:04)
• There’s no air molecules around you, so, if you kick, you’re not pushing against anything – there’s no force to react against. (53:38)
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We’re bringing you real-life stories of men and women who took life’s toughest challenges and met them head-on, radically changing their own lives and inspiring others to do the same. CHRIS CASSIDY: NASA Chief Astronaut, Navy SEAL, National Medal of Honor Museum CEO](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/_Y4x3824QcA/mqdefault.jpg)
![JONATHAN HARMON: What It Took To Save Marcus Luttrell (Part 2)
This week, Marcus Luttrell and former U.S. Air Force PJ and combat rescue officer, Jonathan Harmon, pick up where they left off in their last episode, bringing to the table a deep dive discussion regarding the details of how Jonathan was able to reasonably calculate Marcus’ direction and future location during the Operation Red Wings series of events in Afghanistan in June, 2005. Many details of that op are included in today’s discussion. It has now been 18 years since Operation Red Wings occurred.
Listen in as Jonathan & Marcus discuss the details of the efforts it took to bring Marcus home as the lone survivor of that operation.
In this episode you will hear:
• He [Matt Axelson] had made it close to a village and ended up being shot and killed. And then a villager took his body even further away and buried it. (4:27)• The best record we have [of Operation Red Wings] is from Marcus’ memory. (5:24)
• I think the American public would find it completely fascinating to learn what efforts our government will go to, to bring their people home. (10:24)
• What if you had the ability – and we knew there was a television close by – and you’re being held in a foreign country. It [a discrete message] could be so much as just a message on the television as simple as a small American flag on the screen. (11:55)
• If you can think of the worst day of your entire life, and how despondent you can be – that’s every day in captivity. (13:17)
• He [Marcus’ primary target] – disappeared through an air strike. (18:31)
• So I hand my map off, [and proceeds to list his specific findings] and predict where they would end up, and I’m told: “We’re going to Afghanistan.” (23:36)
• The two [sources of information – the Army’s findings and Jonathan’s findings] validated one another. So we had a location and we had confirmation. (28:07)
• For those that don’t know, we stripped that aircraft down. We took nothing that wasn’t necessary. (30:00)
• I like to call it a recovery – not of remains – but of a person because rescue would imply that we are rescuing you from our friendly forces. That’s not necessarily the case. (30:58)
• I think the first thing [that should happen to Marcus after his recovery] is that and he needed to get a full blown medical evaluation. (33:27)
• Doc Dickens will convince you that you are superman. You’re the fullest expression of yourself. (38:32)
• If there was a father figure for all of us – it was him [Doc Dickens]. (40:29)
• One has to consider the gravity of the circumstances [of Operation Red Wings]. The single most loss of life in the history of the United States Navy SEALS just happened. (42:27)
• To be given the clothing of the village elder is a personification of being him himself. (51:10)
• [Jonathan telling Marcus] Your adherence to your faith in captivity was unique among all stories I’ve ever heard. (51:48)
• If you pull the John Wayne act [while in enemy captivity], you’re gonna get tortured and killed. (53:52)
• He [Marcus] rewrote singlehandedly a lot of our resistance posture training because we were fighting a different kind of enemy that we didn’t write manuals for. (56:10)
• [Marcus] They would laugh at me because I would fall down, and I just kept trying. I would fail all the time. I can’t believe they kept me. (60:19)
• [Jonathan to Marcus] I have a question to ask you and I want you to think about this. Do you want to continue to operate? Or do you want to be a hero? And he thinks about it and says, “Fuck, man. I wanna operate.” (71:58)
• We learned early on that asking permission wasn’t gonna work. The very first thing I learned from the SEALS – beg for forgiveness. (87:55
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Each week join Retired Navy SEAL and Lone Survivor Marcus Luttrell, Morgan Luttrell, and Producer Andrew Brockenbush as they’ll take you into the “briefing room” to chat with incredible guests who share their greatest never quit stories. This humorous, heartfelt, and entertaining podcast is changing lives and has become a beacon of hope and resilience to those who are facing the impossible. One of the best ways we can support our community is to share their stories so that we might inspire others to Never Quit.
We’re bringing you real-life stories of men and women who took life’s toughest challenges and met them head-on, radically changing their own lives and inspiring others to do the same. JONATHAN HARMON: What It Took To Save Marcus Luttrell (Part 2)](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/_hehyXLoyyQ/mqdefault.jpg)



![TREATING MENTAL HEALTH W/ PSYCHEDELICS: Trevor Millar on The Benefits of This Powerful Medicine
In this week’s Team Never Quit Podcast, Marcus welcomes his guest, Trevor Millar, who has a unique, proven addiction-treating specialty. Trevor details the anti-additive properties of Ibogaine, a powerful African psychedelic with a high success rate for treating heroin and opiate addiction, Parkinson’s disease, and other psychological processes and neurological disorders. Trevor discusses significant acceptance of Ibogaine in Canada, which could result in the legitimization of this medicine, and other psychedelic medicines globally.
In this episode you will hear:
• [I had an] un-traumatic childhood. Kudos to my parents. (13:48)
• I never have to worry about what I’m going to do in life because I could always fall back to waiting tables and love it. (21:50)
• The first time I ever consumed LSD I was 14 years old. (39:26)
• This is what adults have forgotten that has made the world so screwed up. (42:26)
• The first person I ever gave Ibogaine to was a 72 year old man who wanted to quit smoking. (47:00)
• Getting addicted to opiates is not like getting addicted to other substances. A lot of other substances, it’s a psychological addiction. With opiates, it’s actually a physical addiction. (50:26)
• The only true cause of death is birth. (53:53)
• [Ibogaine] has this amazing quality of “reset”. (63:47)
• As we live life, were seeing life through a plane of glass. Like a filter. As our hearts get broken, as we suffer traumas, that glass gets dirty. And it gets so dirty, we don’t even recognize that it’s dirty anymore. And what these psychedelic substances seem to be able to do is clean that glass from the inside out. (65:23
• Ibogaine has the potential to keep working on you and with you. (70:26)
• There will be a prescription within 2-4 years within the states. (85:32)
• It’s something that it does that enables you to say “Life is awesome. My purpose is everywhere. I can just be happy for no reason again.” (92:58)
• It brings out the best in people. (98:32)
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We’re bringing you real-life stories of men and women who took life’s toughest challenges and met them head-on, radically changing their own lives and inspiring others to do the same. TREATING MENTAL HEALTH W/ PSYCHEDELICS: Trevor Millar on The Benefits of This Powerful Medicine](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/bG3qJhux4TM/mqdefault.jpg)
![RANDY BEAUSOLEIL: Navy SEAL Officer BUD/S Instructor on Putting Marcus Luttrell Through Training
What an amazing guest Marcus brings to the table in this week’s Team Never Quit Podcast.
Randy Beausoleil served for 34 years as a Navy SEAL, the world’s most elite fighting force. He earned two Bronze Star medals with the Combat “V”, and fought in every major conflict since 1984.
In this episode, Randy speaks in detail about a mission he participated in an attempt to take down Panama’s dictator and drug lord, Manuel Noriega. The successful underwater strategies of the SEALS was beyond risky, and the specifics of how it was executed is compelling, to say the least.
These days, Randy’s relentless pursuit is to teach mental toughness to those who are willing to do what it takes. He has counseled SEAL platoon commanders and members of the Joint Chiefs of Staff. He is a skilled teacher, leader, tactical advisor, and President of Old 18 Information Services.
Randy’s Book co-written with Brian “lucky” Riley: Unwavered: The Self-Belief of a Navy SEAL and TOPGUN Pilot
In this episode you will hear:
• I liked it. Jumping out of a Hilo – all that stuff – I’m kinda like “Okay, this it kinda it.” (9:08)
• I tell people that BUD/S was the most adult experience of my life. (12:39)
• It just a miserable program being in fleet. (12:47)
• I hated every second of the fleet part of the Navy. (13:00)
• [Manuel] Noriega was the king of drugs and all the other things bad. If you can remove God from society, he did everything that would happen once you do that. (22:34)
• President Bush, Sr. made him [Noriega] a target for – let’s just say “extraction.” (22:51)
• This was a completely soft-oriented mission- to go down and get Noriega. Everybody went down there to get one guy. To get him out of the country and turn that country over to the next democratic leader. He was just pumping drugs into the US. (23:50)
• I loved the whole BUD/S experience. (59:04)
• There is no comparison, in my opinion, for any other training on the planet. (59:47)
• Once you make it through Hell Week, I don’t want to say you’re a Team guy, but you have really done something. 80% of the other people are already gone. (61:0)
• I am full, 100% against body armor. Period. Dot. (75:35)
• I don’t think you take a special warfare SEAL, and put him in body armor to do anything. I’d rather move fast and quick with a group of guys. (75:41)
• We took all the basic stuff we were teaching and put it in that book, Unwavered. If you have unwavering self-belief, then you can accomplish anything. (90:30)
• You’re talking about an all-consuming mindset. That’s the only thing you’re thinking about. And if you allow all external influences (cancers) to weigh you down, you’re never gonna make it. (91:25)
• Your ability to survive is based on your ability to fight on their terms, to be sneaky, to know their tactics. It was super challenging. (98:34)
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About TNQ Podcast:
Each week join Retired Navy SEAL and Lone Survivor Marcus Luttrell, Morgan Luttrell, and Producer Andrew Brockenbush as they’ll take you into the “briefing room” to chat with incredible guests who share their greatest never quit stories. This humorous, heartfelt, and entertaining podcast is changing lives and has become a beacon of hope and resilience to those who are facing the impossible. One of the best ways we can support our community is to share their stories so that we might inspire others to Never Quit.
We’re bringing you real-life stories of men and women who took life’s toughest challenges and met them head-on, radically changing their own lives and inspiring others to do the same. RANDY BEAUSOLEIL: Navy SEAL Officer BUD/S Instructor on Putting Marcus Luttrell Through Training](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/bZagN18OxCg/mqdefault.jpg)
![ANTHONY MORTILLARO: Creative Street Artist, Navy Veteran Shares Exclusive Giveaway w/ Custom Art
Welcome to this week’s Team Never Quit Podcast episode! Marcus’ guest, Anthony Mortillaro, widely known as THASM, is a seasoned artist hailing from Queens, NY. With a colorful and creative journey, he has achieved international acclaim for his incredible work.
Anthony has received commissions from notable figures: film-makers, actors, military heroes, and sports team CEOs. These collaborations not only showcase Anthony’s artistic prowess but also highlight the diversity and impact of his craft.Anthony runs an online art gallery on ETSY, aptly named THASMgallery. Boasting over 30 five-star reviews, the gallery is a testament to Anthony’s exceptional skills and the quality of service he provides.
Beyond his artistic endeavors, Anthony has a fascinating background. After a successful career in the United States Navy, he retired and now calls Norfolk, VA, home, where he resides with his family. His journey from military service to a thriving artistic career is sure to inspire and captivate.
Join us for an insightful conversation with Anthony Mortillaro as we delve into his artistic evolution, memorable commissions, and the unique intersection of military service and artistry. This episode is a blend of inspiration, creativity, and the triumph of following one’s passion. Don’t miss out!
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– Navyfederal.org
In this episode you will hear:
• Not having a male role model led me in a different path. (7:17)
• [Marcus] “at the very least, when I’m trying to be a father – at least I’m sitting there.” (7:43)
• I was in more than 11 elementary schools. We moved around a lot. It was constant changing. Now that I’m older looking back – that wasn’t normal. (8:55)
• [Graffiti] was our social media. Graffiti was an outlet to express and to cope. To escape reality. (11:33)
I just did it as more as an outlook to get away from what was happening in the home front. And then it fast forwarded and wound up opening the door to other avenues that I wasn’t anticipating. (13:24)
• This is the first time I’m coming out publicly that I was in the Navy. I never told anybody. (16:20)
• …when he {Morgan Luttrell] stared at me, he stared into my soul with the thousand yard stare. (22:32)
• It went from Graffiti to making a piece that actually shared a story. (24:57)
• I think the paintings that I do will describe identity, a story, and express someone’s life. (27:48)
• Joining the military – hands down – was the best decision. (34:15)
• Partying became my own worse version of me. (34:27)
• Things started smoothing out when I had a friend of mine actually start witnessing to me. (34:34)
• I joined the military to better to better myself. Most people do. (35:08)
• I believe Morgan [Luttrell’s] heart is bigger than his body. (37:06)
• Money – it matters, buts not everything. (39:28)
• Everybody goes through something. Everybody has that “now what?’ – That uncertainty. (47:36)
• My kids don’t have a trident together, but they have their bond. (49:44)
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About TNQ Podcast:
Each week join Retired Navy SEAL and Lone Survivor Marcus Luttrell, Morgan Luttrell, and Producer Andrew Brockenbush as they’ll take you into the “briefing room” to chat with incredible guests who share their greatest never quit stories. This humorous, heartfelt, and entertaining podcast is changing lives and has become a beacon of hope and resilience to those who are facing the impossible. One of the best ways we can support our community is to share their stories so that we might inspire others to Never Quit.
We’re bringing you real-life stories of men and women who took life’s toughest challenges and met them head-on, radically changing their own lives and inspiring others to do the same. ANTHONY MORTILLARO: Creative Street Artist, Navy Veteran Shares Exclusive Giveaway w/ Custom Art](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/bxj62DxjC_M/mqdefault.jpg)
![ROB O’NEAL (REBROADCAST): Former SEAL Team 6 Who Shot Osama Bin Laden
Mission Accomplished: Rob O’Neill on SEAL Team Six, Leadership, and Life After the Battlefield.
In this week’s episode, Marcus and Melanie Luttrell meet with one of the most highly decorated combat veterans of our time—Robert J. O’Neill. With an incredible 400+ combat missions under his belt, Rob’s experiences span across Liberia, The Balkans, The Persian Gulf, Indian Ocean, Ukraine, Iraq, Afghanistan, and Pakistan. As a Navy SEAL, Rob served in SEAL Team Two, SEAL Team Four, and spent eight years with the legendary SEAL Team Six.
Rob’s heroic career is underscored by 53 decorations, including two Silver Stars for gallantry, four Bronze Stars with Valor for heroism, and a host of other prestigious commendations. His resume of skills includes elite qualifications like Military Free-Fall Jumpmaster, Naval Special Warfare Scout/Sniper, and Master Naval Parachutist, among many others.
In this episode, we dive deep into Rob’s role in some of the most significant military operations in recent history:
Operation Red Wings, which saw the rescue of the Lone Survivor, Marcus Luttrell
The lead jumper in the daring rescue of Captain Richard Phillips from Somali pirates
Operation Neptune’s Spear, the mission that brought down Osama bin Laden
Beyond the battlefield, Rob is the co-founder of the Special Operators Transition Foundation, a non-profit dedicated to helping special operations veterans transition to successful careers in corporate America. He is also the author of the best-selling memoir, THE OPERATOR: Firing the Shots that Killed Osama bin Laden and My Years as a SEAL Team Warrior.
Throughout his post-military career, Rob has become a prominent public speaker, security consultant, and media contributor, sharing expert insights on military strategy and terrorism. Whether speaking to survivors of 9/11 or delivering keynote speeches to business leaders, Rob translates his elite training into actionable lessons on leadership, resilience, and success.
Join us as we explore Rob O’Neill’s incredible journey from the frontlines to the boardroom and hear his thoughts on leadership, transition, and how to thrive under pressure.
Tune in to hear the untold stories and actionable advice from one of America’s most decorated heroes!
In This Episode You Will Hear:
• I don’t think I could beat Marcus at arm wrestling if I can’t pick up a bowling ball. (1:58)
• You do realize there’s a thing called old man strength? (5:53)
• [Rob O’Neil] I have a podcast as well, called “The Operator.” We’re called The Operator because if you’re doing anything, you’re an operator. (6:18)
• Having a big man to kick your ass and teach you wind a bobbin; you realize there is skill here. (9:59)
• When people quit BUDS, it’s not because “this is hard”. [It’s because] I’m tired of the broken foot.; I’m tired of the shin splints; I’m tired of my dislocated shoulder; I’m tired. (21:20)
• In BUDS, one of the biggest problems is eating too much. Like I want 5 cheeseburgers, but we have a 4-mile run afterwards. (26:35)
• [Rob] and for everyone that doesn’t know, can you explain what a SDV is? (39:20)
[Marcus] Imagine a mini submarine and shrink it down. The difference is that a submarine is dry inside, and the SDV is completely full of water. (39:23)
• Listen to Marcus discuss the details of being in an SDV for 8 hours. Talk about ultimate torture – If you have a deep freeze in your garage, fill that sucker full of water, crawl in there and sit down for 8 hours. (40:32)
• The first time I got in there, I was terrified. (45:29)
• [Marcus] There’s stuff that happens to us out there. Sometimes safety gets in the way of it. (58:49)
• [After falling down the mountain during Operation Red Wings] I could hear that stream running. I’ve got to get me water, but I kept thinking I can’t drink out of it, because my buddies are in it. (81:07)
• If you want to make God laugh, tell Him what your plan is. (92:04)
• [Marcus] Bro, when you saw that son of a bitch’s face [Osama Bin Laden], what was the first thing you saw? [Rob O’Neal] I saw his nose. He was skinny, wearing white – tall. (95:22 )
• My nickname was “Nisro” (Navy SEAL Rob O’Neal). When they asked “Who got him?” They go “Nisro,” and they said “Fuck! We’re never gonna hear the end of it.” (97:30)
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![CHET INGRAM & RYAN JOHNSON: Remembering Navy SEAL Nathan G. Ingram
A Father’s Mission: Honoring the Legacy of Navy SEAL Nathan Gage Ingram
In this deeply moving episode, Marcus and Melanie sit down with Chet Ingram, the father of Navy SEAL Nathan Gage Ingram, who was lost at sea in January 2024 during a mission off the coast of Somalia. Alongside fellow SEAL Christopher J. Chambers, Gage perished while attempting to board a vessel suspected of smuggling Iranian weapons bound for the Houthi rebels. The mission turned tragic when Chambers was swept overboard, and Gage, in a heroic act of brotherhood, dove in after him — both were lost to the ocean’s current.
Chet, and Gage’s brother Ryan, reflect on Gage’s remarkable journey from Roanoke, Virginia, to the elite ranks of SEAL Team Three. He shares how his son’s determination and selfless character defined every part of his life, including his final moments.
Chet also opens up about the heartbreak of losing a son, the holes left behind, and the hope he’s now pursuing through the Nathan Gage Ingram Foundation — a mission to support military families in their own times of need.
We also discuss the Navy’s investigation into the incident, which pointed to preventable failures, and how Chet has chosen to turn pain into purpose, even participating in a memorial paddle just miles from where his son is honored in San Diego.
From personal grief to public service, from private tears to lasting legacy — this conversation is a powerful tribute to a son, a hero, and a father’s unwavering love.
In This Episode You Will Hear:
• American Airlines pilots, called “100 Vets Who Give a Damn” are retired pilots. They give me opportunity to speak, and make a little money for the foundation. (3:21)
• I’m that dad that when the kids are 4 years old and they’re looking for a soccer coach, I volunteered. (16:47)
• I teach biomechanics and fast pitch softball. (16:55)
• He [Gage] had a lot of heart, played football – still the smallest guy in the world, but as a cornerback, he’d fight you for that ball. (18:05)
• He [Gage] was watching this movie one night. Afterwards, he decided to go for a 4-mile run in the ice. He came back and said “Dad, I’m gonna be a Navy SEAL. (21:50)
• Financially all I ever asked God for was to be comfortable. Never more than I deserved. (28:17)
• Gage and I did the 100k – (6.23 miles) and we did it in just under 4 hours. (42:40)
• Gage loved the kiddos and the puppies. (53:49)
• In an attempt to board the Dhow, going up that unstable ladder, and with the proximity of the boat, it jumped the rail. Chris attempted it and didn’t make good contact and fell 9 feet. (59:14)
• The biggest reward was that between his graduation and boot camp, I asked him to accept Jesus, and he did. (60:20)
• I can’t change the past, but how can I help change the future, based on my experience. (62:27)
• As far as we know those boys are still kickin’ water. He’s still sittin’ in a bar drunk, just waiting for people to come. (62:43)
• [Marcus] We have to have a bar under the sea. (62:47)
• I tell people, he can walk in that door any minute. You don’t know, man. (66:17)
• That’s what happened that day. They knocked on the door, and we’re till living that nightmare. (70:26)
• There are guys getting out now that are able to talk to me about certain things. The incredible impression that Gage made on them. (81:28)
• I want to represent Gage in the highest way possible. (81:47)
• I want the foundation to represent what he would’ve been, what I knew him to be, how he was raised to be, and being validated by stories that are coming back from other people. I think I’m on the right path to basically be a damn good human. (82:11)
• I feel like I’m walking uphill backwards. But at least I’m moving forward. (83:16)
• There aren’t big problems; it’s how you choose to approach them (87:57)
• Think across the horizon. (88:11)
• I can’t offer medical therapy, but I ain’t seen anybody with an issue having a problem when theyre having fun. (90:3
• Gage’s retreat – Adventure Therapy Program – is what is what it’s titled. (90:51)
• People always remember him laughing. He never thought he was better than anybody else. He always treated people with love and respect. (107:53)
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5) CHET INGRAM & RYAN JOHNSON: Remembering Navy SEAL Nathan G. Ingram](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/dWTet16E3yk/mqdefault.jpg)