Uploaded November 2025 | Updated September 2026, 2 hours ago

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How do we carry & light the torch of grace, honor, and belief, even in the face of forces that have attempted to extinguish it?

Devi and Anna reflect in this conversation, available now wherever you listen to podcasts.

In her most recent book, ‘Erased: What American Patriarchy Has Hidden From Us,’ Anna delves into the unique, gendered hierarchy in the U.S., and its attempts to erase, rewrite, and oppress the realities of marginalized communities.

Thank you for your wisdom Anna!