Uploaded October 2022 | Updated September 2026, 1 day ago
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@patflynn is the founder of Smart Passive Income as well as a bestselling author, serial entrepreneur, industry influencer, and startup advisor.
Matt Gartland is the CEO of Smart Passive Income and a servant leader whose greatest joy comes from empowering other leaders, teams, and organizations to achieve their potential through sustainable growth.
Smart Passive Income is a trailblazer in the entrepreneurial space, developing state-of-the-art content, training, and resources to help you launch and grow your online business.
In this episode, youβll learn how SPI leverages its team, how to make your first hire as a creator, how to create a tiered membership, and why community is the next evolution of online courses.
Episode webpage: https://creativeelements.fm/smart-passive-income-2/
Episode #22: https://www.creativeelements.fm/smart-passive-income/
TIMESTAMPS
00:00 - Why Is Community So Hot Right Now
01:02 - THIS Is The Problem With Online Courses
01:55 - What You Will Learn Today
02:33 - People Are Craving Experiences to Learn Together
04:11 - The Team Behind Smart Passive Income (SPI)
09:46 - Hiring And Delegating Is GREAT For Mental Health
10:53 - The Creators You Love Have Robust Teams Behind Them
12:35 - Hiring And Managing Is A Whole Different Skill Set
13:44 - Sign up for Creator Science!
14:32 - How Creators Should Think About Their 1st Hire
17:18 - Should Your 1st Hire Be An Editor?
21:22 - How to Validate and Create a Tiered Membership Program
28:23 - How Jay Structured The Creator Science Lab Membership
29:34 - Guarding Your Time and Access To You
33:16 - Listen to the Audio Podcast!
34:36 - THIS is the Future of Online Courses
36:44 - Itβs NOT too Late to Get Started
40:54 - Pat Flynn Was Wrong About Email
43:34 - OUTRO
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π Join our community for creators: join.creatorscience.com
@patflynn is the founder of Smart Passive Income as well as a bestselling author, serial entrepreneur, industry influencer, and startup advisor.
Matt Gartland is the CEO of Smart Passive Income and a servant leader whose greatest joy comes from empowering other leaders, teams, and organizations to achieve their potential through sustainable growth.
Smart Passive Income is a trailblazer in the entrepreneurial space, developing state-of-the-art content, training, and resources to help you launch and grow your online business.
In this episode, youβll learn how SPI leverages its team, how to make your first hire as a creator, how to create a tiered membership, and why community is the next evolution of online courses.
Episode webpage: https://creativeelements.fm/smart-passive-income-2/
Episode #22: https://www.creativeelements.fm/smart-passive-income/
TIMESTAMPS
00:00 - Why Is Community So Hot Right Now
01:02 - THIS Is The Problem With Online Courses
01:55 - What You Will Learn Today
02:33 - People Are Craving Experiences to Learn Together
04:11 - The Team Behind Smart Passive Income (SPI)
09:46 - Hiring And Delegating Is GREAT For Mental Health
10:53 - The Creators You Love Have Robust Teams Behind Them
12:35 - Hiring And Managing Is A Whole Different Skill Set
13:44 - Sign up for Creator Science!
14:32 - How Creators Should Think About Their 1st Hire
17:18 - Should Your 1st Hire Be An Editor?
21:22 - How to Validate and Create a Tiered Membership Program
28:23 - How Jay Structured The Creator Science Lab Membership
29:34 - Guarding Your Time and Access To You
33:16 - Listen to the Audio Podcast!
34:36 - THIS is the Future of Online Courses
36:44 - Itβs NOT too Late to Get Started
40:54 - Pat Flynn Was Wrong About Email
43:34 - OUTRO
***
CONNECT WITH PAT AND MATT
π Website: smartpassiveincome.com
π¦ Twitter: twitter.com/patflynn
πΈ Instagram: instagram.com/patflynn
πΉ YouTube: youtube.com/patflynn
***
CONNECT WITH JAY
π Website: creatorscience.com
π¬ Newsletter: creatorscience.com
π§° Get our Toolbox: creatorscience.com/toolbox
π¦ Twitter: twitter.com/jayclouse
πΈ Instagram: instagram.com/jayclouse
π΅ TikTok: tiktok.com/@jayclouse
πΌ LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/jayclouse
***
π GUEST REQUESTS & LISTENER QUESTIONS
https://creativeelements.fm/request
π PAST EPISODES & STARTER PLAYLISTS
https://creativeelements.fm/episodes
https://creativeelements.fm/playlists
πΌ SPONSORS
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π Leave a review on Apple Podcasts
apple.co/3c6oN4g
π’ Leave a rating on Spotify
spoti.fi/3c6xpYH
βοΈ Buy Me A Coffee
buymeacoffee.com/jayclouse
***
TEAM
Host + Producer // Jay Clouse: jayclouse.com/links
Editor // Conor Conaboy: twitter.com/conorconaboy
Audio Engineer // Nathan Todhunter: nathantodhunter.com
Thumbnail Artist // Neaux: twitter.com/NeauxArt










