Uploaded March 2026 | Updated September 2026, 2 weeks ago

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Van and Rachel remember the life of Kiki Shepard before discussing the negotiations between the WNBA and WNPBA that led to a verbal agreement for a new CBA. Then they discuss the recent New York Times investigation into Cesar Chavez. After that, the two get into the big controversy revolving around reality star Taylor Frankie Paul, Afroman’s lawsuit, and Ray J’s most recent viral moment: defending his sister Brandy. Lastly, the two are joined by former Ringer colleague, poet, and author Jonathan Kermah to talk about his new book 'Heal My Heroes: a superpowered Kerm joint' of poetry.

(0:00) Intro
(1:04) Midnight Boys recast
(7:48) The life of Kiki Shepard
(13:21) WNBA and WNPBA align on key elements of a new CBA
(26:58) Cesar Chavez accused of sexual abuse
(51:52) Taylor Frankie Paul under fire
(1:16:34) Afroman lawsuit
(1:32:00) Ray J defends Brandy
(1:45:05) Jonathan Kermah

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