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0:00 Has the pace of AI progress slowed?
12:01 How the tech CEOs are learning to stop worrying
14:10 Mark Zuckerberg
22:44 Sam Altman
29:59 OpenAI’s attempt to shed its non-profit status
53:06 Dario Amodei
59:27 Heading into Overtime

Discussed in Overtime:
Demis Hassabis.
The singularity and Sinophobia.
How do things look from China's perspective?
Elon Musk
Some AI-related cultural products.
Is AI scheming research overblown?
Are people starting to get it?

Robert Wright (Nonzero, The Evolution of God, Why Buddhism Is True) and Holly Elmore (PauseAI US, hollyelmore.substack.com/). Recorded September 11, 2025.

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