Uploaded May 2025 | Updated September 2026, 9 hours ago
This week, Noah Smith and Erik Torenberg debunk myths about the American middle class and globalization, analyze historical data on wage stagnation and trade, assess China’s technological rise, and discuss U.S. economic resilience and policy responses to protectionism.
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RECOMMENDED IN THIS EPISODE:
Globalization did not hollow out the American middle class: https://www.noahpinion.blog/p/globalization-did-not-hollow-out
Noahpinion: https://www.noahpinion.blog/
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TIMESTAMPS:
(00:00) Intro
(00:20) Disclosure
(01:25) Debunking the middle class hollowing myth
(03:37) Reality of wage stagnation
(06:02) Impact of globalization on wages
(07:56) Service sector jobs and economic shifts
(09:12) Misconceptions about globalization
(11:36) Sponsors: Netsuite | Adquick
(13:41) Oil shocks and economic changes
(20:28) Deindustrialization and manufacturing challenges
(25:16) China shock and its aftermath
(27:04) Debating economic protectionism
(28:21) Main story of the American economy
(30:01) Tariffs and their impact on manufacturing
(31:06) Promoting exports over imports
(33:44) China's economic evolution
(36:54) Future of Chinese and American economies
(46:51) Technological leadership and political challenges
(50:17) Wrap
This week, Noah Smith and Erik Torenberg debunk myths about the American middle class and globalization, analyze historical data on wage stagnation and trade, assess China’s technological rise, and discuss U.S. economic resilience and policy responses to protectionism.
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SEND US YOUR Q's FOR NOAH TO ANSWER ON AIR: Econ102@Turpentine.co
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FOLLOW ON X:
@noahpinion
@eriktorenberg
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RECOMMENDED IN THIS EPISODE:
Globalization did not hollow out the American middle class: https://www.noahpinion.blog/p/globalization-did-not-hollow-out
Noahpinion: https://www.noahpinion.blog/
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TIMESTAMPS:
(00:00) Intro
(00:20) Disclosure
(01:25) Debunking the middle class hollowing myth
(03:37) Reality of wage stagnation
(06:02) Impact of globalization on wages
(07:56) Service sector jobs and economic shifts
(09:12) Misconceptions about globalization
(11:36) Sponsors: Netsuite | Adquick
(13:41) Oil shocks and economic changes
(20:28) Deindustrialization and manufacturing challenges
(25:16) China shock and its aftermath
(27:04) Debating economic protectionism
(28:21) Main story of the American economy
(30:01) Tariffs and their impact on manufacturing
(31:06) Promoting exports over imports
(33:44) China's economic evolution
(36:54) Future of Chinese and American economies
(46:51) Technological leadership and political challenges
(50:17) Wrap



![Explaining Kamala’s VP Pick, the US Economy, Venezuela’s Fall and China’s Rise
This week, Noah Smith and Erik Torenberg discuss the implications of Tim Walz as Kamala Harris VP pick, the stock market chaos of Monday August 5th, the state of the U.S. economy, the economic collapse of Venezuela, and the growth of East Asian countries.
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LINKS:
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Whos weird?: https://www.noahpinion.blog/p/whos-weird
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TIMESTAMPS:
(00:00) Intro
(00:27) Discussion on the VP pick
(08:49) Democrats and the strategy of Return to Normalcy
(09:56) The Weirdness Discourse
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(19:38) ‘Weirdness’ in politics
(23:44) Kamalas inconsistency
(26:16) Economic updates and market sentiment
(32:54) Economic indicators and unemployment trends
(36:23) Concerns about national debt
(40:00) The dollar milkshake theory
(42:07) Venezuelas economic collapse
(51:04) East Asian economic success stories
(01:00:01) Chinas growth and success
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