Uploaded May 2026 | Updated September 2026, 2 weeks ago
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This week we’re diving deep into a pop cultural figurehead, and the strange evolution of the medium that propelled him to stardom from a niche sideshow into one of the biggest entertainment machines on Earth. Of course, we’re talking Hulk Hogan, and the incomparable spectacle of WrestleMania. This one gets pretty wild, so buckle up.
We start with a trip down memory lane as we reflect on our own introductions to the world of wrestling. We wonder, how did something so openly “fake” become more culturally powerful than many “real” sports? And what exactly was wrestling tapping into that made its stars so recognizable to almost everybody?
From there, we break down how WrestleMania completely changed the business, and how Vince McMahon’s impossible gamble paid off so spectacularly. With wrestling turning into such a mainstream event, we wonder how much of modern entertainment owes something to it? Was it really the blueprint?
We also explore why Hulk Hogan’s “Real American” persona was expertly crafted and perfectly molded to fit the landscape of the 1980s. Hogan was much more than just a wrestler…he was THE Cold War superhero.
From there, we take a turn into Hogan’s bizarre Hollywood career, the infamous Richard Belzer incident, and the surreal energy of celebrity culture in the 80s and 90s. We talk about “Hollywood Hogan” and the overwhelming cultural shift toward cynicism in the 1990s.
Naturally, as we wrap things up, we zoom out and take a look at the culture of America itself. What made figures like Hulk Hogan feel so real to people despite being overtly performative? And are larger-than-life personalities even possible anymore in an era obsessed with optimization, irony, and image management?
Big thanks to our patrons, we’ll see you next week.
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CREDITS:
Hosts: Kevin Lieber and Matt Tabor
Executive Producer: Ben Webster
Editor: Spencer Vann
"Created in the Unknown" theme by Basswaite: https://linktr.ee/Basswaite
Theme by Mega Drive → megadrivemusic.com
Opening Animation: Kidmograph
City Animation: Eric Langlay
"The Create Unknown" is produced by Unknown Media.
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Thanks to MAINGEAR for speeding up everything for us. Check out the VYBE line that’s making up the core of Matt’s new studio -- and use code CREATE for a free additional year of warranty on desktops: maingear.com/ref/656
Join Our Patreon: patreon.com/thecreateunknown
This week we’re diving deep into a pop cultural figurehead, and the strange evolution of the medium that propelled him to stardom from a niche sideshow into one of the biggest entertainment machines on Earth. Of course, we’re talking Hulk Hogan, and the incomparable spectacle of WrestleMania. This one gets pretty wild, so buckle up.
We start with a trip down memory lane as we reflect on our own introductions to the world of wrestling. We wonder, how did something so openly “fake” become more culturally powerful than many “real” sports? And what exactly was wrestling tapping into that made its stars so recognizable to almost everybody?
From there, we break down how WrestleMania completely changed the business, and how Vince McMahon’s impossible gamble paid off so spectacularly. With wrestling turning into such a mainstream event, we wonder how much of modern entertainment owes something to it? Was it really the blueprint?
We also explore why Hulk Hogan’s “Real American” persona was expertly crafted and perfectly molded to fit the landscape of the 1980s. Hogan was much more than just a wrestler…he was THE Cold War superhero.
From there, we take a turn into Hogan’s bizarre Hollywood career, the infamous Richard Belzer incident, and the surreal energy of celebrity culture in the 80s and 90s. We talk about “Hollywood Hogan” and the overwhelming cultural shift toward cynicism in the 1990s.
Naturally, as we wrap things up, we zoom out and take a look at the culture of America itself. What made figures like Hulk Hogan feel so real to people despite being overtly performative? And are larger-than-life personalities even possible anymore in an era obsessed with optimization, irony, and image management?
Big thanks to our patrons, we’ll see you next week.
You love anime. You love tea. Get 10% off your order with code CREATE at The Dragon's Treasure: thedragonstreasure.com
Buy our T-shirts: thecreateunknown.com/store
Join our Discord to talk with artists, creators, and fans of the finer things in online life: discord.gg/vnRnr3rCzt
Apple: bit.ly/TheCreateUnknownApple
Spotify: bit.ly/TheCreateUnknownSpotify
Google Podcasts: bit.ly/TheCreateUnknownGooglePodcasts
CREDITS:
Hosts: Kevin Lieber and Matt Tabor
Executive Producer: Ben Webster
Editor: Spencer Vann
"Created in the Unknown" theme by Basswaite: https://linktr.ee/Basswaite
Theme by Mega Drive → megadrivemusic.com
Opening Animation: Kidmograph
City Animation: Eric Langlay
"The Create Unknown" is produced by Unknown Media.
CONNECT WITH US:
» Chat with us on DISCORD: discord.gg/qAQV3Jw
» Follow us on TWITTER: twitter.com/createunknown
» Follow us on INSTAGRAM: instagram.com/thecreateunknown
» Follow us on FACEBOOK: facebook.com/thecreateunknown
» View our website: thecreateunknown.com
#thecreateunknown #podcast #wrestling
