Uploaded April 2026 | Updated September 2026, 2 weeks ago

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Psychologist Paul Bloom joins Robert Wright to discuss Paul’s cute new baby, our uncertain AI future, whether eugenics is making a comeback, whether intelligence is overrated, and more.

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0:00 Teaser
0:49 Paul’s new baby is reportedly cute
6:54 The Tucker-Trump fracture
12:16 Parenting later in life
19:36 Paul's TED talk on AI and loneliness
25:25 When does embryo screening become eugenics?
34:13 Is intelligence a positional good?
43:00 Heading to Overtime

Discussed in Overtime:
Modern fatherhood.
How Bob bonded with Al Gore.
Tony Robbins and Easter Island.
Betting on our AI future
Theories of parenting
Why are siblings so different?

Robert Wright (Nonzero, The Evolution of God, Why Buddhism Is True) and Paul Bloom (https://smallpotatoes.paulbloom.net, University of Toronto, The Sweet Spot, Against Empathy). Recorded April 22, 2026.

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